RMTers discuss P1999 dsetup.dll "includes some NSA-level intrusive scans on your PC"

[Alaron01]

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I like how you're so self absorbed that you think I've been anything but [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] or better this whole time.


Come back. I need your hot hot pseudo-intelligence. This thread is really boring without you discussing tertiary subjects in a thread about a non-issue with a .dll.

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[Viscian]

Everyone is so quick to dismiss this as false. But I do remember a time when playing P99 I did not have to disable my anti-virus to stop it from quarantining .dll file.

Then there is this response from a community legend. lol..

#2 Old 09-06-2014, 06:06 PM
Derubael Derubael is offline
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Lyra - I copied your post into it's own brand new thread b/c I thought you did a good job of explaining this. I'd like to add this as well:


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Originally Posted by KOOLLAYD View Post
I just wanna know if it alters anything on your computer or changes anything to install anything in the background or if it just runs and pings simply because of how it was coded or what. It's reason or purpose doesn't doesn't bother me. If I seriously thought something wasn't on the level I'd have not even bothered to ask. I'd kept it moving. Since I am new I can't judge based on the last 5 years since I wasn't here. That's why I am asking you guys.

dsetup.dll doesn't modify any of your files, doesn't let us read your files, doesn't destroy your registry. It doesn't give us any kind of hands on access to your computer. It's there to detect cheats like Macroquest and ShowEQ so that we can have a truly hack free server. As a poster explained above, it is likely that someone submitted it to a (crappy, lazy) virus database and they filed it in the "well it does something but we can't be arsed to figure out what" section of their DB. So now it's going to flag on certain virus scanners.

I'm told a number of high end scanners like Kaspersky's (read: Mcaffee, Norton, are horrible at virus protection. Biggest scam in the industry IMO. AVG is good but since a lot of their business is free I'm betting they don't have the staff to check for false-positives like this and remove them).

For the longest time this file didn't get picked up on any scanner (~4ish years) and no one has ever reported it doing anything malicious to their computer. This leads me to believe the "someone submitted it" theory, possibly to try to thwart Project 1999 (Disclaimer: I'm pulling this out of my ass, but it makes sense). The DLL literally has not been touched in forever, so it's not like we added something in that would make it start getting flagged as malicious.


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Originally Posted by myriverse View Post
Much easier to get a better antivirus program. The better ones do not mistake it for a virus.

^ Kaspersky's if you're a savvy computer user, Webroot if you're not. If you really don't want to pay, AVG - but you'll have to add an exception for this file (as you stated in your OP). Spybot/adaware/malwarebytes as well, if you're not careful about the websites you visit (your computer is likely bogged with malware/adware/spyware, even if you dont know it; people in the IT field deal with this on a daily basis), you'll need these programs.

In order to circumvent the DLL flagging, simply disable your anti-virus software and re-enable it after launching EQ. This shouldn't be required with better scanners.
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Around the time P99 got better act detecting is when .dll starting getting flagged..

/tinfoilhaton

[simp403]

We weren't quick to dismiss it as false. We spent 18 pages tearing apart the bullshit they released on their site. Did you bother reading any of it?

> Around the time P99 got better act detecting is when .dll starting

Where did you get the idea that "P99 got better detecting" around this time?

[Viscian]

Look at previous thread links to staff banning 400+ accounts around those months. If you go back and read you can see a huge spike in staff going on about banning accounts and when the .dll started getting flagged by anti-virus when it had not before.


#1 Old 03-23-2014, 01:45 PM
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So I'll be the first to start this thread up. There are 400 of us so should be a popular thread

I bought a Fungi Tunic from Platlord back in January for my Monk "Mylee". So beware if you think he got out of this unscathed. Mentioning names to keep future people safe since honestly this sucks the big one. Over 50 RL days of work flushed away.

But I would do it again. I would do it again, including the RMT, in a heartbeat. It made the game more playable during a time when I didn't think I could handle leveling up a new character due to time constraints. This game is amazing and brought me back to a time in my youth that I truely enjoyed. These days I dont have the same time to put in that I did back then but I do have a whole lot more money, so you can see the allure

I wish p1999 the best, thanks to the staff for making this experience possible. Eunomia in particular was a great person to deal with. Derubael, thanks for humoring my last attempt at getting my account back. Sirken, your streams were fun to watch and I enjoyed your DT's in Sebilis.

Goodbye to all my friends and guildies as well, sorry for the wasted time in helping me and I'm sorry I wont be there with you guys in the future but it was fun while it lasted. I think most people will have lost friends in this ban wave (600 characters, hard to imagine anyone not losing someone they knew) so lets all say goodbye.

Fairwell p1999!

- Daysprung (60 Cleric), Mylee (55 Monk) , Deciderius (BANK MULE)


It could be a massive coincidence.. Just saying..

[simp403]

What "previous thread" are you referring to? Can you please provide a link instead of copy-pasting a contextless wall of text?

Also, if you're only going by that guy's word for the "400 people banned" claim, then I would say that I don't really consider him a reliable source.

[GreenRanger]

my face when rogean and friends and using ever user logged to project1999 eqemu servers as bitcoin miners.

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[JboxCSU]

Jesus, this again?

[Nocsucow]

this thread is A+ .... learning so much from this.

[Plackers]

Pedo bear has arrived