Redwjamz ain't movin....

[Xaanka]

Originally Posted by Magikarp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since I'm ousted, might as well spill the beans from what I learned from his followers while he was asleep. He was almost banned from p99 (but wasn't) for allowing Greengrocer to speak about staff corruption on his stream. Think what you will about this: GG was going around implicating RMT on the server which, while real, resulted in staff oustings and alienation, and could nonetheless threaten the legality of both servers. Reason enough to be warned, maybe not banned.

He was banned for RMT with a certain female p99 streamer.

quoting for immortality. when it comes down to it, nothing positive came out of the GG shit and they both only hurt the box & community by doing this. fuck em. staff would have been more than justified to ban both of them for that alone.

[wts]

That would be just my luck for the project to get shut down right before Discord and/or teams.

[wts]

I still maintain that Daybreak is pretty clueless for not realizing how much P99 would be worth if licensed for live servers. Let them keep their free servers and cut them in on commercial servers running P99 code. They're leaving money on the table.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

quoting for immortality. when it comes down to it, nothing positive came out of the GG shit and they both only hurt the box & community by doing this. fuck em. staff would have been more than justified to ban both of them for that alone.

Im a progressive when it comes to "problem people" and I struggle understanding why Moregan was handled in a way that scorned him so badly?

Its like they hyped him and gassed him up (giving into requests for more responsibility and access, being a "pushover", chatting it up with him all these months, leading him along) and then kneejerk car-accidenting the entire situation.

Does this not seem more fucked up? Maybe its just me. LOOK I realize they thought Moregan was someone he wasn't, but he is still pretty normal from listening to him speak and dealing with him in-game.

He should have been handled with kid gloves and let down easy, Braknar says he tried, but 1 guy isn't enough Brak. You needed a concentrated effort to let him down easier over time imo, to save the server from this unnecessary unpleasantness.

Just saying, and I will state again as a disclaimer, I'm of the progressive viewpoint that everyone can be controlled if given proper handling. Some may label me naive, willfully ignorant, childishly idealistic, and possibly unrealistic for this view.

That said, I respect Braknar's decisions.

[Kergan]

Problem is one side is incentivized to give their version of events, and the other side has equal reason to keep their version a secret. You're never going to get a true picture from one side of the story.

[Magikarp]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Im a progressive when it comes to "problem people" and I struggle understanding why Moregan was handled in a way that scorned him so badly?

Its like they hyped him and gassed him up (giving into requests for more responsibility and access, being a "pushover", chatting it up with him all these months, leading him along) and then kneejerk car-accidenting the entire situation.

Does this not seem more fucked up? Maybe its just me. LOOK I realize they thought Moregan was someone he wasn't, but he is still pretty normal from listening to him speak and dealing with him in-game.

He should have been handled with kid gloves and let down easy, Braknar says he tried, but 1 guy isn't enough Brak. You needed a concentrated effort to let him down easier over time imo, to save the server from this unnecessary unpleasantness.

Just saying, and I will state again as a disclaimer, I'm of the progressive viewpoint that everyone can be controlled if given proper handling. Some may label me naive, willfully ignorant, childishly idealistic, and possibly unrealistic for this view.

That said, I respect Braknar's decisions.

not sure wtf youre talking about in general.

what do you mean by progreessive? i know the elections are near but what?

he roleplayed a lot and that was fun and funny, but he was in a position of power in the volunteer crew. and from what i understand, he was akin to poking fun at his superiors

at least thats what he says "poking fun" "giving them a hard time" etc... well as a boss that may translate to compromising authority completely and plenty enough reason to fire

there's no "proper handling" when someone, by personality, threatens the authority of the status quo. you may read this as draconian, but you may also have a job, so relate it to yourself

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is one side is incentivized to give their version of events, and the other side has equal reason to keep their version a secret. You're never going to get a true picture from one side of the story.

Right. There's no way to know, and even a moderate opinion on the situation such as the one that I have taken, involves degrees of speculation. And possibly idealistic by those in-the-know.

The optics is what I went by, and I am left feeling that Moregan needed more care in his handling, as it seems plausible now that Moregan was blindsided despite Braknar admitting they were trying to move Moregan off staff since July.

That is a lot of months and stringing, for no damage control results.

That is all I was getting at here.

[Magikarp]

app guide

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Magikarp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

at least thats what he says "poking fun" "giving them a hard time" etc... well as a boss that may translate to compromising authority completely and plenty enough reason to fire

there's no "proper handling" when someone, by personality, threatens the authority of the status quo. you may read this as draconian, but you may also have a job, so relate it to yourself

This is also a highly plausible version of events, and as was insinuated by Braknar himself without revealing too much, that in fact, Moregan may have been too psycho for this to end any other way.

[Kergan]

Why would you want to be a guide here if you're truly in it for the right reasons?

You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.