AFK Leveling = Banned. New Unspoken rules Via Guide Drommund. Proof inside.

[Qi0]

I checked more thoroughly and the 75% thing was implemented halfway through Luclin as an effort to actually buff mage soloing efficiency (while still not letting them AFK level). The 50%/50% thing seems to have been in place from either the beginning or very early.

It's pretty ridiculous that mages have been able to level with their pets doing 100% of the damage for this long, though. It makes nerfing such a thing at this point kind of weird. Technically it's less of a blow to AFK leveling to change it to 50/50, yet more of a blow to solo mages who are actually at their computer the entire time. I wonder how this works in a duo group of pet classes, too. Can you just sick both pets on a mob, heal whichever takes damage, and move on? It seems like you can.

The server consensus seems to be that anything that increases grouping potential is a good thing. I definitely agree with that philosophy, so any change will be welcome.

[wooly]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The rules weren't spelled out if a: you afk, b: you're banned because there have been times when people pass out drunk.. and their pets defend them. People afk, they return to discover they never went offline. Or.. any number of things. Both of these particular situations have happened to me.

I didn't want to enforce bans for something like this. I figured "frowned upon" would be enough for someone to assume they shouldn't do it, and not get banned for a mistake. So much for good will.

I never thought it would be brought to the forums, with screenshots, for nothing other than to be loud and ask for a clarified rule if they should be banned for something that is defined as "FROWNED UPON". First thing I did was look up at my Private Messages.. I see none. I look in the petition thread, I see no posts by you. If your only defense is a screenshot where the very first line reads "This is your final warning", that doesn't sound good for your case.

Players answer to guides, guides answer to GMs, and GMs answer to project administrators. From the evidence presented, it looks like you went out of your way to cause a scene.. for nothing other than to get another rule needlessly enforced. By not complying with the guide's wishes, you're a rebel, sir.

As there hasn't been HUGE fucking drama about this before, the only new rule I'll make tonight is:

Wooly, if you're caught in the rocks with a pet up and AFK again, you will banned for 7 days.

From non compliance with the staff, you brought these paragraphs upon yourself. In the future if someone feels a guide has wronged them, make a formal petition in the petition area of the forums. You will receive a fair hearing. GMs will defend guides, and I will defend GMs.. so, if there's a player VS. guide dispute, don't bring it to the public forums? It's none of these other people's business.

Sorry, I know you guys love the drama, but this was an unnecessary 8 pages of it. "Frowned upon." Give it one last chance. Think about it. We can work on making pets eat your exp or a variety of other nasty things, but why lose a safeguard you have. If you need to emergency afk, I'm sure you'll love coming back to find your pet killed a mob and you were banned.

Listen to the staff.

Complain upwards, not laterally.

This thread was never meant to be a defense for myself. I did it because it was only frowned upon. I'm a businessman, i'll do whatever is within the rules to succeed. Unethical doesn't always mean illegal. Since you're specifically telling me it's illegal for me, I will stop.

If you read the screenshots, you'll notice your newly two day minted guide is not very well spoken. He said this is your final warning. Fact of the matter is, it was my only warning. I haven't received any prior warnings. One is all I needed though. All I did was ask for clarification and the response I got was "because I can". If you're telling me to accept this and to drop it I will. Just know this is a horrible practice.

Also, if you read the screenshots I complied with every wish of the Guide. I ceased when he asked me too. I brought it to the forums, which he suggested. Was this wrong of me to do even though he told me to bring it to the forums? You're telling me it's wrong.

I asked for clarification of the rules. That was the real intention of this thread. Notice how the only rule you implemented was specfically for me? Does that mean it's a bannable offense if anyone else does it? According to Drommund, it is. According to your post it is not. Either way, I will not do it. The rules should be more clear and concise though.

So which is it?

Thanks in advance.

[Ghesta]

Oh for the love of god shut up.

You're in the wrong and you know you're in the wrong. Just take your licks and go back to the game.

One of the things that makes this server, and original EQ great, is the community. It's a MMO unlike WoW where most classes from level 10 or lower should have to group and get to know others to level. By the time you're level 50 you should have a guild of friends who know you, your play style, your skill. You should have friends you're not guilded with that you can call on when you need a tank, a healer, a port, a DS, or even just a hit of some crack.

Everquest, original everquest, is more about the community and personalities than any one camp, spawn, loot, or raid. If you're AFK leveling, you're not a part of that community. So why even bother playing here?

In short, quit whining, the community, gms, guides, and developers have all spoken. Join us or GTFO.

[Honus]

Originally Posted by Finawin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ohnoz, noobs can't suck cock at the game anymore and still get to 50 by accident without having ever exposed their fail to groups.

What he said.

[Shankz]

By Nidnogs post i gathered that afk lvling is frowned on but you wont be banned unless you abuse it.

Ult Tabbing while your pet kills crap is acceptable, Staying in a area for days at a time while AFK letting your pet kill stuff is not. They are asking you not to abuse the leniency of AFK lvling, so that people may have a buffer zone like he explained incase of emergencies, falling asleep while playing (it is evercrack after all) or multi managing work/cooking/actions and EQ which you know we all do.

All in all, please dont be a jerk off and make the guides/GMs seem like dicks because you cannot take no for an answer.

[clacbec]

i think it s ok to let the pet class the chance to afk leveling up to 8-10, so it s a fair way to let people make reasonable cash to equip the main SK or whataver other class you hesitated to start with 0 survavility.

Note i m 10 wiz.

and btw, this is classic(c) !! no ?!


Clac

[Honus]

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[ssyrax82]

Wooly, STFU... Business man? Seriously? What kind of crap is that. Clearly NOBODY is on your side. Man up, stop trying to justify your actions by twisting people's words and thinking you are smarter than the Guides/GMs. Nobody here thinks you are right, NOBODY.
Whether its your first warning or not, if he said its your FINAL warning, it means its your last one. Why you would continue to backtalk to the guide and try in /ooc to make him look bad just because you don't agree with him is beyond me.
When you started playing on a FREE server you agreed to play by their rules. The developers, GMs, Guides dont have to justify their actions to you. Its their game, they don't require you to pay them for their product or their time. If they say, because I said so then that's the law.
Please do us all a favor and click that little button on the character select screen that says delete.

[Ghesta]

Well see your honor, it's like this... She said she didn't really want to have sex with me. She asked me to please if I was decent to stop fucking her. She said she'd never be able to live with the shame.... but she never actually said "No" to me. I'm a buisnessman, so I don't consider it rape.

[Qi0]

Boy, this thread sure needs more posts bashing the OP for crimes against humanity.

You'd think people would thank him for making this a hot topic and likely getting changes implemented.


Edit: Is it really that hard to understand that some people will do whatever it takes to get ahead as long as it's not going to explicitly get them banned? It appears he's more than willing to receive your hatred, but not a ban. Save the rape analogies for when you actually have a point.