If you believe in god, you're an idiot...

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was wondering...

If god created everything, does this mean he is with us on earth?

because there are sure lots of things that got created during the ages.
like cars computers boats concrete pavement pizza (yummy) etc..

like every time someone creates something, he's god ?


or is it something more like , god created the tought that made that person think about taking a bunch of different materials and passing current trough em and making things like computers?
or .. the wheel!
cuz we know that wasn't a coincidence right? there has to be higher power involved.

If you are truly wondering, why not read the bible? I think the answers you are looking for are in there. That is the problem with Atheist...you do not even read the material that you are arguing against. I mean, I read your science.

[Harrison]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are truly wondering, why not read the bible? I think the answers you are looking for are in there. That is the problem with Atheist...you do not even read the material that you are arguing against. I mean, I read your science.

Don't bring that up. The bible is FULL of stupidity and it is also doubly fallible since it is written by men.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Boggwin Bramblefoot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are truly wondering, why not read the bible? I think the answers you are looking for are in there. That is the problem with Atheist...you do not even read the material that you are arguing against. I mean, I read your science.

you want some bible reading material? okay!

example one of a kind and loving god!

Deuteronomy 23:2 says: A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the lord.

and equality for women too you say?

1 Timothy 2:12 "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, she must be silent."

but the church loves homosexuals! oh wait

Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."

i can go all day long with the insanities listed in this fairy tale

[Henini]

also,

atheists never burned, tortured and pillaged in the name of atheism.

never went to war in the name of atheism.
never tried to manipulate and control people in the name of atheism.


I could go on.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also,

atheists never burned, tortured and pillaged in the name of atheism.

never went to war in the name of atheism.
never tried to manipulate and control people in the name of atheism.


I could go on.

Heard it, addressed it before ITT, move on. Fail with a side of lamesauce.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

also,

atheists never burned, tortured and pillaged in the name of atheism.

never went to war in the name of atheism.
never tried to manipulate and control people in the name of atheism.

Stalin? He didn't kill people while shouting "I'm doing this for atheism!" afaik, but.. he was eradicating the Church to allow for communism.

Now I agree that Communism <> Atheism, but I think your claims above cannot be true. There are far too many human beings for that 'never' to happen.

http://rainbowstalin13.ytmnd.com/

[Henini]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Stalin? He didn't kill people while shouting "I'm doing this for atheism!" afaik, but.. he was eradicating the Church to allow for communism.

Now I agree that Communism <> Atheism, but I think your claims above cannot be true. There are far too many human beings for that 'never' to happen.

http://rainbowstalin13.ytmnd.com/

I said that is wasn't done in the name of atheism. I never said that non religious people didn't kill each other or do any kind of atrocities.

[Boggwin Bramblefoot]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said that is wasn't done in the name of atheism. I never said that non religious people didn't kill each other or do any kind of atrocities.

I think you hit the nail on the head...PEOPLE do these things. The ones that are doing those things and claiming to be Christian are not really Christians...therefore you cannot say that they represent Christianity in the matter. That is like saying that fireman are evil, mean people because a man dressed as a fireman went on a killing spree and raped a woman. Never-mind the fact that he wasn't truly a fireman...just one pretending to be.

Talk about fallacious.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Henini [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I said that is wasn't done in the name of atheism. I never said that non religious people didn't kill each other or do any kind of atrocities.

I'm not usually one to quote wikipedia, but I also don't know French history that well.

Another anti-clerical uprising was made possible by the installment of the Revolutionary Calendar on 24 October. Hébert's and Chaumette's atheist movement initiated a religious campaign in order to dechristianize society. The program of dechristianization waged against Catholicism, and eventually against all forms of Christianity, included the deportation or execution of clergy; the closing of churches; the rise of cults and the institution of a civic religion; the large scale destruction of religious monuments; the outlawing of public and private worship and religious education; the forced abjurement of priests of their vows and forced marriages of the clergy; the word "saint" being removed from street names; and the War in the Vendée. The enactment of a law on 21 October 1793 made all suspected priests and all persons who harbored them liable to death on sight.

Did these people kill in the name of atheism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror

[Henini]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not usually one to quote wikipedia, but I also don't know French history that well.



Did these people kill in the name of atheism?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reign_of_Terror

I stand corrected I guess.

But we both know clergy was pushing it's fat aggression on people. They revolted and tried getting rid of them. For the right to not burn at the stake for not going around treating every clergymen as gods.

in other words, they had it coming.

but like I said, I stand corrected.