Shaman vs. Cleric

[xaxis]

I see the endgame costs as a legit concern but as a shaman I'll be able to solo/farm the money needed correct? Or do I need all that shit to be able to solo?

[brecon]

The game changes for a shaman at 60 when you get Torpor. The types of camps you an do increases dramatically. Pre-torpor, you are doing like 2-5k items. With torpor you can go after 15k+ items.

But you are still great at duoing without torpor. It's called the torpor grind for a reason, it takes time. But ideally you find a group of friends in a guild, and start farming seb crypt in your 50s...a good place to get some shaman spells.

[Troxx]

My shaman is 58. I have none of the pricey spells. I didn't get my fungi until 57. I don't have epic.

Even without those, I feel borderline god mode. I can cover heals well enough in a 6 man that the cleric could go to sleep. With slow and 3 minute root, who needs mez? Troll regen is just godly paired with canni (fungi just makes it insane).

A shaman without epic and torpor is still a demigod compared to most other classes.

I can solo.
I can duo with literally any other class.
With some classes I can duo content such that it's better than a full group.
I can fit into a group of any size, and generally cover slower, healer, and cc duty.

The only group I've learned to never take an invite to is me + 5 melee. Fuck that, too much work and I can't keep up.

I'm not worried about torpor. It'll happen or it won't. If it doesn't I still have an incredibly overpowered class that can do fun stuff alone or with others ... And always pull my weight.

[xaxis]

Alright, I've made my final decision and it is...Shaman! Thanks for all the help and info everyone.

[Baler]

/who all shaman count = 113
/who all cleric count = 83
as of this post on blue. Just sayin.

Ps. makes friends with an enchanter and go do whatever you want.
shm/ech or cleric/ench are some of the strongest duos.

[xaxis]

I was actually going to roll chanter first but caster in EQ get face rolled to easily for the time I can commit. I know that's not what you were talking about necessarily but /shrug

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by Xaanka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shaman is plenty of fun 1-60 without torpor, but once you get to 60 you'll find that it's pretty necessary to have especially for casual stuff like healing 6 man groups and solo/duoing. The easiest path a new-to-the-server Shaman would take to get Torpor, would be to get into a raiding guild and hope it gets awarded to him, but this may not appeal to you if you play casually yknow?
On the flip side, you pretty much always have to be grouped as a Cleric in order to have something to do in EQ. Even at 60 without a duo partner there just isn't really much you can do beyond standing in the tunnel and looking cool. So at 60, as a Shaman, at least you can occupy yourself with "trying to get a Torpor scroll" if that makes sense :]
The likleihood of a casually played Cleric becoming a badass (and come on now, that's why we all play this game) is a lot higher than a Shaman, but the Shaman might be a bit more fun for the casual type player to play because they can solo?
They're both really fun classes though. You can't go wrong.

i played a cleric on blue 1-57. would not do again, it is just mindnumbingly (is that a word?) boring. either you are perma oom, or you dont heal at all ad just sit there. sometimes you get a decent group that requires attention and thats when its fun to be a cleric.
in general tho i do agree with everything xaanka has said

[Kevynne]

Originally Posted by xaxis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was actually going to roll chanter first but caster in EQ get face rolled to easily for the time I can commit. I know that's not what you were talking about necessarily but /shrug

this is not true.
casters are the best class to start wth (and druids)
naked they are still useful and can still do everything they can do twinked just as good
in addition, a geared chanter and an ungeeared enchanter will get shit fucked by your hasted charm break pet. personal eexperience

[RDawg816]

I have a naked enchanter. He has nothing in most slots (even hands are empty)...only has a few pieces of damask armor. Occasionally I'll log him in and kill guards for a bit and camp out. I agree that wouldn't be possible with a melee class...

[xaxis]

Originally Posted by RDawg816 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a naked enchanter. He has nothing in most slots (even hands are empty)...only has a few pieces of damask armor. Occasionally I'll log him in and kill guards for a bit and camp out. I agree that wouldn't be possible with a melee class...

Thanks for the constructively sarcastic comment. I enjoy RnF threads...oh wait...

Anyways, I didn't mean casters are always doomed just that the super early level are not as forgiving as they are for more "hearty" classes.