Tell me why Red sucks

[Jauna]

The extra added stressful probability of dying while exping.

Thats pretty much it, I hate the idea of always looking over my shoulder, or constantly watching /who to keep an eye out on potential or well known threats and sometimes just not trusting group members.

And that, is probably the biggest reason people do not and will not play Red99.

Yeah sure the devs pretty much did everything they could aside from add Plane of Knowledge ports, soulbinders, boat translocators, spawning with your gear after death, not making pvp a thing until 60, free gear packs at 60.

People just do not want the added stress of constantly worrying while exping.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The extra added stressful probability of dying while exping.

Thats pretty much it, I hate the idea of always looking over my shoulder, or constantly watching /who to keep an eye out on potential or well known threats and sometimes just not trusting group members.

And that, is probably the biggest reason people do not and will not play Red99.

Yeah sure the devs pretty much did everything they could aside from add Plane of Knowledge ports, soulbinders, boat translocators, spawning with your gear after death, not making pvp a thing until 60, free gear packs at 60.

People just do not want the added stress of constantly worrying while exping.

If a group wanted to go off the grid and XP they could, but if you want to hunt in the normal spots (MM, CoM, KC, Seb) you will absolutely get ganked.

[Loke]

I think I've posted my views on Red else where, but might as well repeat them. First of all, I don't think Red sucks, it is just good/bad for different players. The main reason I returned to blue was because the end game on red as a support class was a huge pain in the ass if you didn't want to join one of the top guild(s). As a L60 cleric with some friends in the mid-late 50s, it was very hard for us to work on small group objectives (e.g. epics, gear, farming plat) without getting harassed. On blue me and a couple friends can take a couple hours and go farm Kael a bit for armor, on Red doing the same is just asking for some rogue to wait until you're engaged with mobs and then attack. Also, not being able to AFK is pretty annoying.

I also really don't like how a lot of people on that server expect you to inherit their grudges. On a number of occasions I had people bitch at me for not helping them kill someone, when both of the people were guys I got along with. That was probably the biggest thing that kept me from joining a guild. I actually app'd to a guild, but after a few days hanging out with some of their members I just quit associating with them. Random dudes I'd never talked to expected me to help them kill my friends simply because we shared a guild tag, and then threw a fit when I didn't. I actually had members of the guild I had app to grief my exp groups on a number of occasions simply because they were bored. Trying to level up so you can raid, only to have the people you're going to be raiding with waste hours of your time gets old really quick.

I think if I could have started out at 60, not knowing anyone on the server through leveling, and just joined a guild without any pre-existing friendships on the server, it could have been fun. However, by the time I reached 60 I disliked enough people from just about every guild on the server than I really had no desire to join any of them. I also definitely would have made a PvP class instead of a cleric. There is really no benefit to playing a support class, guilds might need them, but you'll spend all your time listening twink rogs and t-staff monks talk shit - either because they killed you, or because youre a pansy for running away, as if a cleric has any chance of winning that fight.

If you're really into PvP and raiding, red is a pretty solid server. Even if youre not that into pvp and only want to raid, it is still probably better than blue. However, if you like to solo harder content, or do small group stuff, or make new friends, red is kind of a hell hole. Blue is just a better experience if you want to play casually imo.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The extra added stressful probability of dying while exping.

Thats pretty much it, I hate the idea of always looking over my shoulder, or constantly watching /who to keep an eye out on potential or well known threats and sometimes just not trusting group members.

And that, is probably the biggest reason people do not and will not play Red99.

Yeah sure the devs pretty much did everything they could aside from add Plane of Knowledge ports, soulbinders, boat translocators, spawning with your gear after death, not making pvp a thing until 60, free gear packs at 60.

People just do not want the added stress of constantly worrying while exping.

The added stress is exactly what i want and appeals to me about red99. I had been on a PvE server on live, and played on blue here for years. I was in casual and the most hardcore guilds here on blue99, I felt like I did all there was to do on Everquest after a couple years. When I first on started on project1999 I had a simple goal, and thatl was to do dungeon crawls in the zones I hadn't explored on live, such as Uguk, Lguk, Unrest basement, Mistmoore Castle, Runnyeye, Droga/Nurga, Howling Stones, kaesora and Splitpaw. After I done all that I wanted to see all of the raid content I hadn't seen on live. I raided everything Kunark/Classic had to offer. I felt like the game that use to feel infinite and overwhelming was now simple and small.

red99 is like a whole new everquest, a new challenge and added element of the game and once I experienced it there is absolutely no chance I could ever play everquest without it. I understand when my friends explain to me they have no interest in pvp and don't want to deal with it, but I genuinely feel sorry for them because they can not see what I do in red99 everquest

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The added stress is exactly what i want and appeals to me about red99.

And if more people thought like you, we would not be having the daily "Come play with me" threads, but most do not.. and that is the point.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if more people thought like you, we would not be having the daily "Come play with me" threads, but most do not.. and that is the point.

What is the point?

The point is, whether its blue or red, it's Everquest. And everyone posting here loves Everquest. We share a special bond, and I want everyone who loves Everquest to have as much fun as possible. If all that requires for you to have fun is post threads like this - I would tell you KEEP POSTING - NEVER STOP. Consequently, I would never be bothered, annoyed or tired of the threads, i'd be happy for you.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The point is, whether its blue or red, it's Everquest. And everyone posting here loves Everquest. We share a special bond, and I want everyone who loves Everquest to have as much fun as possible.

can u borrow me some plat pls

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by fan D [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is the point?

You quoted my own post with the point a few posts back

People do not want the added stress of PvP added to leveling.

[fan D]

Originally Posted by Jauna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You quoted my own post with the point a few posts back

People do not want the added stress of PvP added to leveling.

Some people don't. Some people do and have not yet realized it. They just need to try it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Bionic]

The problems that I see with Red 99 are:

• Low population - There isn't a whole lot of grouping going on if you aren't in a guild. You may have to traverse a few contents to get to the zone your group has chosen to level. Keep your eyes open as you travel.

• Lack of ports and binds - If you're just starting out I'd highly suggest you play a caster to at least overcome the lack of gear / bind issue. You will die on Red99 more than you do on Blue99.

• Economy - You have to put more effort into buying gear on Red. There isn't 500 people sitting in one zone all day selling everything you need. Brightside is that the prices are lower (on average) for most items. On the other hand, any camps are wide open so making plat to gear up is much easier on Red.

• OOC conversations - A percentage of the population is salty and only seeks to antagonize their foes in the global OOC. Nightly arguments, insults, and linking of gear that "so-and-so will never have" can be expected. I'd recommend you put OOC in a separate window as, if you're like me, you'll probably be minimizing it to avoid such nonsense.

Even with all these issues, I have a great time on Red. I'm not in a guild and I play casually a few days a week. I've managed to gear up 3 characters pretty decently and enjoy the server so much that my 60 Shaman on Blue (full spellbook minus Canni 4) rarely sees any playtime these days.