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[Pokesan]

obedience to an unjust law is no virtue

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol if you really think IP/copyright law can be changed with rational argument

no my friend, it's time for forks and knives

maskedmelons top and bottom surgeries were payed by the establishment and they're training and privileged positions in society ensure that maskedmelon will no longer ever be able to take a step back and look at what she's doing to herself and others objectively.

maskedmelon is far to superior to the rest of us to even bother argueing her point outside of "you evil scum are THEIVES" PRIACY IS EVIAUZLZ 111!!! it's like SHOOTING PEOPLE AND Taking# their BABIEZ

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

obedience to an unjust law is no virtue

Agreed and I use to have many links and citations even from court cases at the turn of the century to argue this point, but sadly my autism has flared to the point were I can't really be rational anymore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

(which were posted here half a decade ago and lost to the sands of time [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

but *hugs*

[Pokesan]

fucking hate paladins

[Jauna]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't even dignify a response, so HAI!!!!! WULD U LIEK 2 BUY A COPY OF MY PoSTs For 2 CENT's PER VIEWZ? PLZ DO NOT RETRANZMIET OR I WILL BE FORCED 2 SEND U 2 TRAITOR JAIL4LyF# becauze UR A PIRAT#&K811ddY (This includes CACHED copies on your ISP who'm we already made a deal with)

You can sit there and shit your pants until the stench makes everyone around you leave and no one left to debate you leaving you the victor by default.

Does not make theft alright however.

Also, walk up to a police cruiser and try to take the shotgun off the rack and squeal "MUH TAXDOLLARS". Bring a friend with you to record it and post results.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this kid was 10x smarter than most people and knew it

Arrogance is not often considered a virtue. It most assuredly played a role in that young man's downfall.

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He didn't sell OR make profit on anything

That is irrelevant. He gained unauthorized access to restricted space ( digital, not th broom closet) and appropriated property that was not his own. Prohibition on such conduct is reasonable and respective law is appropriate.

No matter how noble the cause, criminality in its pursuit remains criminality.

If he felt the information should be freely accessible, he could have acquired copies of the papers legally and then given the information away. To him the cause was not worth that great of an investment.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maskedmelon is far to superior to the rest of us to even bother argueing her point outside of "you evil scum are THEIVES" PRIACY IS EVIAUZLZ 111!!! it's like SHOOTING PEOPLE AND Taking# their BABIEZ

I didn't realize that is how it sounded. I've merely pointed out:

1. He broke laws
2. He could have achieved a better result had he not

I do think theft is wrong though.

[maerilith]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't realize that is how it sounded. I've merely pointed out:

1. He broke laws
2. He could have achieved a better result had he not

I do think theft is wrong though.

Is copywrite infringement theft?

Yes he violated computer systems under the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act.

But it seemed like an appropriate measure to take in my eyes. I agree with pokeson on this one. And not just because pokes white knighting.

Sometimes you have to just ignore the rules and play by your own in order to live and thrive. Sometimes that's the only way to affect better change.

I guess it was a legal move to secede from the British Empire and tell the King we were sovereign... IDK...

[sOurDieSel]

I love all the free gibbsmedat on the internet. Seriously, everything on the internet is free. Download until your eyes and fingers bleed.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by maerilith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is copywrite infringement theft?

Yes. There are is a sizable amount of latitude within copyright law for fair-use. The problem here is that the material was fraudulently obtained from the get go.

The one problem that I do see with copyright law is established judicial precendt with regard to defense of copyrighted material. If copyright holders do not pursue legal action for known infringements, they risk it falling to public domain.

Do you think we should do away with copyright law altogether or are you just unhappy with copyright holder demographics?