what's a good 2 man combo?

[Omnimorph]

Ench / Druid is good.

One of the best utility classes? necro's, so add them to whatever you want and it's a benefit (pulling, dps, tanking, mezzing, then to a lesser degree healing, mana dumping, also they get a rez later on, making them immense)

Monk / shaman has always been a popular combination, monk's can tank anything effectively once it's shammy slowed, shamans can heal, dot, buff, sow etc.

Mage / cleric can duo virtually anything.

edit : lol @ young 2 boxer

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

HUH?

Originally Posted by Auvdar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. Maybe 3'rd.

Who would you say is second best then? Because druids have Mages beat end-game in classic.

Single target direct damage:

DRUID
level 59 wildfire 1024 damage for 320 mana 3.2 ratio
level 57 Frost 762 damage for 250 mana 3.048 ratio

MAGE
LEVEL 57 Shock of Steel 795(@57)-825(@60) damage for 275
ratio at level 60 = 3.0

These are the classic damage ratios, all nukes got boosted up and in 2005.
Most other classes don't even get straight nukes from 57-60.

Best straight nukes in game = wizard. Second best = druid, third best = mage.

Now if you were to include mana efficiency of AoE, Rain, versus summoned or undead or whatever, then it's a different story. But for straight nukes druids are more efficient than mages.

[guineapig]

Slightly off topic but who has better heals at 60, druids or shaman? This would include heal over time, any type of regen, etc. I know in classic they are both equal at 50 but in Kunark their healing spells start to change.

(I know that shaman are more mana efficient in general by virtue of canni, etc. so ignoring those for a moment.)

[Psionide]

How come you didn't add in the mages 59 nuke Seeking Flame of Seukor? Granted it's a LOS spell sure but its still a nuke and it hits for 1600 damage for 413 mana.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Psionide [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How come you didn't add in the mages 59 nuke Seeking Flame of Seukor? Granted it's a LOS spell sure but its still a nuke and it hits for 1600 damage for 413 mana.

Wow I completely forgot about that spell, but it's not 1600 damage, it's 1024.

2005-04-12 13:05 Changed Slot 1 from "Decrease Hitpoints by 1024" to "Decrease Hitpoints by 1607"

Also the mana cost was 320... This would make it basically the exact same spell as Wildfire. (Sheesh, you would think they would have at least made the druid spell ice-based instead.)

So, looking at this spell that makes druids and mages tied for second place at level 59 in Classic-Velious.
(People never give druid nukes enough credit. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.])
So anyway, it further enforces my point that 2nd best nuker in the game, combined with healing/porting/ rooting/snaring/lulling/DSing/sowing capabilities in a 2-3 person group = win.



EDIT: What's the differentiation between single target and LoS exactly? This means you actually have to be facing the mob like a bolt spell?

[Thoughtseize]

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Slightly off topic but who has better heals at 60, druids or shaman? This would include heal over time...

Torpor = win

[fugazi]

Wizard/wizard/enchanter or bard.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by fugazi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wizard/wizard/enchanter or bard.

This is awesome till the moment somebody needs a quick heal and mez gets resisted.

[john_savage1982]

2 man - enchanter, cleric
3 man - enchanter, cleric, shadowknight
4 man - enchanter, cleric, shadowknight, druid
5 man - enchanter, cleric, shadowknight, druid, rogue
6 man - enchanter, cleric, shadowknight, druid, rogue, monk

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

If you are planning on playing with a lot of pugs, then do the chanter cleric thing. If duoing, id go with chanter/(necro/druid/shammy/mage) - any of those is gonna kick ass.