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[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, idol camp is literally one mob next to a zone line. That isn't monopolizing anything. So your logic is that high level players shouldn't farm items they are going to use, but should instead buy them at exorbitant prices from low level characters? You do realize to buy idols they'd just need to farm else where, right?

No one cared about idols until raiders started using them en mass, and there is absolutely no reason why a high level character should be any less entitled to farming that mob than anyone else. The only reason the mob drops anything of value in the first place is because raiders use idols. Lowbies are welcome to price gouge if they want, but arguing they should have some exclusivity to the camp and that higher level players should pay them for idols is some backwards ass thinking.

OK, so high end characters/guilds are perfectly within their right to exclusively occupy entire XP zones like Chardok and charge exorbitant prices for proxies to get XP and epic drops but then they also have to occupy the low level camps as well because they can't afford the going rate for idols? Seems a bit absurd. That being said I'm not arguing for any exclusivity for anyone on anything.

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[Loke]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OK, so high end characters/guilds are perfectly within their right to exclusively occupy entire XP zones like Chardok and charge exorbitant prices for proxies to get XP and epic drops but then they also have to occupy the low level camps as well because they can't afford the going rate for idols? Seems a bit absurd. That being said I'm not arguing for any exclusivity for anyone on anything.

If you can find a way to AE chardok or down epic mobs with lowbie characters, by all means go for it. Of course high level characters dominate high level content - because low level characters simply arent high enough level to do it. That doesn't mean they have to forfeit all lower end content too. Useful stuff still comes from low end content.

Raid guilds aren't monopolizing chardok, literally anyone with a character who can contribute to the group can get put on the list to join. In fact, I would doubt raid guild characters even make up the majority of people doing / selling chardok AE - most are too busy raiding.

You know what the solution to all this shit is? Make the best of what life throws your way! I logged on this weekend a couple times to someone sitting in the camp I wanted. Instead of throwing a fit, I asked them to let me know when they were done, and I went and did something else. Sure enough, after a couple hours I got my camp. The only person entitled to a camp is the person who got there first. Arguing over who deserves what more is just dumb.

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[EQBallzz]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can find a way to AE chardok or down epic mobs with lowbie characters, by all means go for it. Of course high level characters dominate high level content - because low level characters simply arent high enough level to do it. That doesn't mean they have to forfeit all lower end content too. Useful stuff still comes from low end content.

Raid guilds aren't monopolizing chardok, literally anyone with a character who can contribute to the group can get put on the list to join. In fact, I would doubt raid guild characters even make up the majority of people doing / selling chardok AE - most are too busy raiding.

You know what the solution to all this shit is? Make the best of what life throws your way! I logged on this weekend a couple times to someone sitting in the camp I wanted. Instead of throwing a fit, I asked them to let me know when they were done, and I went and did something else. Sure enough, after a couple hours I got my camp. The only person entitled to a camp is the person who got there first. Arguing over who deserves what more is just dumb.

Way to read a bunch of shit into what I said. Obviously, low level characters aren't going to be in Chardok but the point wasn't to contribute to a proxy group. The point was that some people don't want proxy groups and don't want to pay to get XP in a popular zone so why should a select few get "exclusive" rights to an entire zone? I realize many have been here a long time and have long since bored of playing/leveling but some actually do want to play the game as it was intended instead of just power leveling to max level.

Also, who said anyone was throwing a fit or not sending people tells to communicate? I actually do communicate and some people are cool about it and others are dicks. Like I said before..most of my interactions with people have been positive so I'm fine with how things are for the most part. I just thought it was dumb that high level characters were camping low level items and monopolizing camps better suited to lower level players.

Again, I explicitly said I was not arguing for anyone to be entitled to anything or get some sort of exclusivity and yet you seem to be perfectly fine with a select few getting exclusivity to Chardok (doesn't matter if they are from raid guilds or not) but I guess you have a way to justify that as being different somehow.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by EQBallzz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Except you're misrepresenting the chardok situation. I've exp'd in chardok outside of AE without any problem. They have no claim on the zone and get in trouble for training you. The reason people AE in chardok is because almost no one uses that zone because it isn't really itemized until the revamp. If you go to chardok and set up camp in the way of the AE pull, you aren't breaking any rules and the AE group is if they train you - its just no one does that because until the revamp chardok isn't a high traffic zone (aside from AE) and everyone in the AE group would think you're a dick.

No one is forcing anyone to AE or pay for AE proxies. Even with AE groups there are plenty of areas of chardok that aren't part of the AE pull that you could go exp in. There is no exclusivity in chardok, full stop. Anyone with a character who can contribute to AE can join AE, and anyone who can't is more than free to form a group and head up there. People just don't because the risk/reward sucks outside of Royals and AE until revamp.

Also, you seem to have ignored my point that the idol camp is literally one mob. It isn't like guys camping it are clearing high pass to do it. Sorry people are camping the item themselves instead of buying it from you at inflated prices.