World of Warcraft: Legion

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Daywolf [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't you think that this has been the trend for the past 10 years? A trend that is just taking it's course to gold fish levels of ADHD. And everything too, yeah, even to walking into a Target store and seeing everyone standing zombiefied with their heads down staring into smartphone's dragging their thumb across the screen flipping from image to image. Blizzard has just been tapping into that.

That's what I was driving at.

There is no going back. Game design is a reflection of what's going on culturally. Goldfish attention spans with the ability to only focus on things that INTENSELY interest you.

There is an unpublished study done that games like LoL and DOTA2 are the perfect model of dopamine destruction. They basically get the brain use to a certain amount of pleasurable hits per millisecond that is very unnatural to our current DNA. These people "train" their brain's dopamine unknowingly while playing these MOBAs nonstop every day for several hours a day essentially causing permanent alterations in dopamine transport and dopamine reward.

The majority of hardcore MOBA players as a result cannot enjoy anything except MOBAs. Wish I had a link.

MOBAs and similar dopamine models to MOBAs such as Pokémon Go are the future of gaming.

[big_ole_jpn]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's what I was driving at.

There is no going back. Game design is a reflection of what's going on culturally. Goldfish attention spans with the ability to only focus on things that INTENSELY interest you.

There is an unpublished study done that games like LoL and DOTA2 are the perfect model of dopamine destruction. They basically get the brain use to a certain amount of pleasurable hits per millisecond that is very unnatural to our current DNA. These people "train" their brain's dopamine unknowingly while playing these MOBAs nonstop every day for several hours a day essentially causing permanent alterations in dopamine transport and dopamine reward.

The majority of hardcore MOBA players as a result cannot enjoy anything except MOBAs. Wish I had a link.

MOBAs and similar dopamine models to MOBAs such as Pokémon Go are the future of gaming.

definitely believe it. My brief time playing League was one of the few where I would have CEVs of the game when trying to sleep. Makes me feel cracked out and leaves me with a hangover the next day. Civ series has a similar effect -- has something to do with doing very repetitious behaviors in a game at maximum speed. I can play many more hours of an actually decent game without any similar effect.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by big_ole_jpn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

definitely believe it. My brief time playing League was one of the few where I would have CEVs of the game when trying to sleep. Makes me feel cracked out and leaves me with a hangover the next day. Civ series has a similar effect -- has something to do with doing very repetitious behaviors in a game at maximum speed. I can play many more hours of an actually decent game without any similar effect.

I watched people play dota irl (I used to play MOBAs too) and watching how rapidly they are clicking and typing and interacting is just like chain smoking and chain snorting cocaine trying to maintain. "Frenetic" would be a good word I'd say...one of the reasons I didn't stick with SC2 and decided to just quit after many years of enjoying SC1. The APM is just a touch too damn high, and its a shame and a waste of a potentially good game.

It gives me anxiety to watch someone play a MOBA now, knowing what its doing and how "involved" and serious these sperglords are about winning a game that they do not play professionally...

Healthy competition is fine, but you cross the line when you are dead serious about winning PUG games. I realized the reason they are so serious and intense is because of the "cracked out" effect you are talking about. They are struggling to get those dopamine hits and the brain is demanding them.

There's a better study of this done on long gaming sessions in general, not even MOBAs. When people said WoW destroys your social skills, I was HIGHLY skeptical, having been intimately familiar with the game in Vanilla, it was a very social experience at one point.

I wonder what those same people are now saying about MOBAs? Nothing. There is simply a lack of awareness regarding some of these games and until (((Lune))) and others step up and start trending away from them in every day casual conversation, American citizens qualities of life will continue to suffer as a result.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is an unpublished study done that games like LoL and DOTA2 are the perfect model of dopamine destruction. They basically get the brain use to a certain amount of pleasurable hits per millisecond that is very unnatural to our current DNA. These people "train" their brain's dopamine unknowingly while playing these MOBAs nonstop every day for several hours a day essentially causing permanent alterations in dopamine transport and dopamine reward.

Thanks for the lesson on physiology for retards. You blew out my dopamines and serotonins and now I only get pleasure from shitposts.

[R Flair]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the lesson on physiology for retards. You blew out my dopamines and serotonins and now I only get pleasure from shitposts.

dont worry chronic masturbation probably made you immune to its effects

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the lesson on physiology for retards. You blew out my dopamines and serotonins and now I only get pleasure from shitposts.

No prob I knew u were a lil slow from all the Jew molasses you've been swallowing.

"I dumbed down my lyrics, doubled my dollars

The people criticized me for it, but they all yelled holla"

Name who said that without Google for redemption

[phacemeltar]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"I dumbed down for my audience, to double my dollars

They criticized me for it, yet they still yelled holla"

thank god for granting me this moment of clarity

[Daywolf]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is an unpublished study done that games like LoL and DOTA2 are the perfect model of dopamine destruction. They basically get the brain use to a certain amount of pleasurable hits per millisecond that is very unnatural to our current DNA. These people "train" their brain's dopamine unknowingly while playing these MOBAs nonstop every day for several hours a day essentially causing permanent alterations in dopamine transport and dopamine reward.

The majority of hardcore MOBA players as a result cannot enjoy anything except MOBAs. Wish I had a link.

MOBAs and similar dopamine models to MOBAs such as Pokémon Go are the future of gaming.

Interesting. I've heard a little about this. It almost sounds sort of like the damage amphetamine use does to the brain. You know, where dopamine receptacles are so inundated that they burn out. Over time they feel nothing for anything apart from the increased use of the stimulant which further burns out receptacles.