Gnome Shadowknights and Erudite Warriors?

[Borak]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Artificial prohibitions on player choice are stupid. All hard race-class restrictions should be removed and replaced with meaningful in-game obstacles like the absence of trainers and lower starting factions for culturally unacceptable classes in starting cities. Could also be implemented as a class change system with the same elements. Lots of ways to do it and have it make sense rather than: THE LAWS OF THE UNIVERSE PRECLUDE THE POSSIBILITY OF ERUDITE BARDS, GNOME MONKS AND OGRE DRUIDS.

I never understood why erudites were excluded from being bards. Complex music (i.e. requiring a symphony orchestra of close to 100 musicians) is a sign of an advanced society. If anything, erudites would have a wider range of string instruments, i.e. violin, bass, harp, etc. You can probably throw high elves into this equation.

While we're at it, let the happy halflings play their mandolins, ukuleles, piccolos and steel drums to their hearts' content.

[Cecily]

Because lore. *roll eyes*

[LordRayken]

Cecily you don't have to post anymore in this thread, okay?

[Cecily]

I'll post where I like. Thanks for your input.

[LordRayken]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll post where I like. Thanks for your input.

Okay, then stop mocking discussion in the threads. We understand your feelings on lore and "arbitrary decisions."

Your arbitrary opinion on lore is silly and just derailing.

[Cecily]

It's as valid as any other opinion regarding in depth discussion of elves and their vocations.

[LordRayken]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's as valid as any other opinion regarding in depth discussion of elves and their vocations.

It's about as valid as saying "I like to eat toast."

Every decision in a game is arbitrary when it comes to a design choice. Literally every race and class exists in this game because of lore, and that's based on arbitrary decisions. Your discussion has been all about rolling your eyes and mocking lore.

So obviously, you have nothing to say.

[Cecily]

You sound like someone whose religion just got mocked. Or like an atheist with "because science." What specific lore are you referring to? I'm guessing... class design would come before lore. And any lore after the fact would just serve as an explanation. But, yeah it's really just an arbitrary game design. That's a not a bad thing. It does kind of derail your special snowflake discussion though, which is obviously way more interesting. Please continue.

[LordRayken]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It does kind of derail your special snowflake discussion though, which is obviously way more interesting. Please continue.

Wow, you're just an asshole.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by LordRayken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, then stop mocking discussion in the threads. We understand your feelings on lore and "arbitrary decisions."

Your arbitrary opinion on lore is silly and just derailing.

Well, her opinion on lore is no different than your desire to have an ogre rogue^^ Lore is the reason there are no Erudite warriors or gnome shadow knights. You don't like part of it, she doesn't like any of it. Personally, I don't like any of the artificial restrictions such as race-class or even armor/weapons. It doesn't make any sense why someone would be physically incapable of putting on a particular article clothing unless it was too small, or in rare cases, restricted by magic. Sure, it could be less effective on some than others and it might actually be detrimental to some, but make it that way rather than some artificial restriction ^^