ASOIAF / Game of Thrones (SPOILERS INSIDE)

[AenorVZ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c1PML5kfbg

I understand low expectations as a defense mechanism (that's my trick with the series). However, my expectations for the book are high. The Dornish Master Plan has allowed me to love the last two books almost as much as the first three. If GRRM is being this fucking anal, the end product should be something you'll appreciate after a couple of readings.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by TheDuck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you really holding out hope for a decent book? between the pressure and everything not to mention he has money now, i dno. From what i have heard about martin is he is a passionate writer, but he doesn't care anymore. in his mind his idea has been sold.
you buy that book will probably be ghost written, with martin just filling in the details at best.
at worst it will be a very poorly written book that somehow ties in the show.
(makes way more money)
sirken ill let u guess which route they went with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be more willing to bet that GRRM is just bored. he already knows the story, the only reason for him to put pen to paper at this point is for the readers. as you said, he doesn't need to do it for the money, and he doesn't need to do it for himself (he already knows the story). he will finish book 6. and Book 7, i dunno. I can see him doing another Dunk & Egg book as well as that Targaryen book he wants to pump out before we see book 7 (if we see book 7)

[Sirken]

Gendry spotted! https://youtu.be/4k_MNqCgMpE

[AenorVZ]

Still rowin lol

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by AenorVZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still rowin lol

i'd like to see Gendry back with the brotherhood. but at the rate the show is wrapping shit up, its hard to believe they'd bring people back. either way, i'm a fan of gendry, and house baratheon needs a lord. make it happen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[entruil]

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[Sirken]

Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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check out the first few episodes and decide for yourself. definitely dont read this thread if you are not caught up on the show [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sirken]

season 7 spoilers?

https://youtu.be/UeKC7xW38J8

[AenorVZ]

So aight, thoughts on the Deeper Dorne recent installments? He makes a pretty good case that Doran set up Qentyn to fail. I think I may have caught Preston in a reach. He complains that they didn't provide Quentyn ravens although he did provide them to Arianna. Is there any instance in the books of ravens that travel between Westeros and Essos?

So I can buy that Qeyntn's mission had to be so super secret so that Doran wouldn't want him interacting with Essos intel contacts that might potentially let something slip. And Preston's arguments that the Yronwoods are not strictly loyal to the Martells are pretty compelling. It's really suspicious that, if this absolutely had to be a small, self-contained and elite unit to accomplish this super secret objective, it should have been at least two groups of five with an advance group to screen for and sometimes shadow Quentyn's group. With no help in Essos, Doran is 100% relying on too small a group of knights to pull off such a massive objective.

So it really does look like Doran sent his own son off to die or be enslaved or be imprisoned and tortured in Essos. And it also looks like, despite astronomical odds, Quentyn -- THE FUCKING BADDASS OF ASOIAF -- almost pulled that shit off. Because fuck you, Doran. Your boy put lash to fucking dragon. And fuck all you other Quentyn haters too. It took shiny brass balls to even walk into that cave.

[Sirken]

lol. Quentyn might also just be super dumb to walk up to the dragons as well. I assume that Varys uses ravens that fly from Westeros to Essos and from Essos to Westeros to order to communicate with contacts across the narrow sea. And also Euron gave ravens to Victarion that were to fly from Slaver's Bay back to the Iron Islands.

While I agree that Preston makes a lot of good points, Doran's Quentyn plan simply does not make sense to me. Unless you want Quentyn to die, why on earth would you send him on what seems like a possible suicide mission. It's possible that Doran doesn't know how big the dragons are at this point (news travels slowly, its possible they are still hearing tales of a Targaryen with 3 little dragons). I just don't know. There's a ton of things going on with in Dorne with Doran, but it just seems like Doran could have really improved Quentyn's odds of success with very little effort, and for whatever reason, he didn't do it.