Rotation RNF Thread

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You think that just because you didn't fire the first shot that you're absolved of your responsibility for participating in the gun fight? Come on.

Not sure what your referring to but if it's because we went to VP after the rotation was broken then I don't see why wed need absolving. It went to shit, VP was ffa at that point.

Intentionally breaking a ring war is a different story though...

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The same reason you were. To congrats us on Crown / Robe I assume.

lol

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Nune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woah woah woah woah, hit the brakes son. "Raid rotations" came about through a series of us talking with one another in game/on TS with guild leaders/officers and eventually server staff once TMO got thrown into the fan. And there were a ton of us contributing (this is back when it was given a specific forum area and you needed special board access to view/comment, talking years ago) This was pretty much fought tooth and nail by the established guilds until it was forced onto the server. "Pushing for rotations" in todays P99 is light work; you've already got a model in front of you to navigate.

On an off note though, was Kenevil running Taken when they went leet dude? They were as casual as Indignation was before I took a few years off and came back somewhat recently. This is news to me and shocking as that is 100% not how he was wired, I grew up on P99 with him on my first cleric

I'm not referring to the GM enforced C R FFA system...

[Pokesan]

you'll have to excuse Nune, he's clinically retarded

[paulgiamatti]

Top-down solution:

1. Staff-invoked unilateral ban on VP, ToV, ST, and ring wars until rotations are worked out.

2. 48-hour grace period to get your characters out or rebind. After that, the portals to ToV, VP, and ST will not work and the zones will be taken offline. The ring war trigger will not spawn.

3. Ban stays in place for two weeks or until rotations are solidified in Raid Discussion and each involved guild/guild alliance signs off.

4. System to allow prospective guilds/guild alliances their own slot must also be solidified.

5. All agreements must be unanimous, but not all-inclusive. Example: Guilds 1, 2, and 3 agree to a system, but guild 4 says no. If guild 4 refuses to agree by the end of the two week ban, then they will be excluded. They may apply for a slot under this system in the future if they have a change of heart.

6. Zones are brought back up under license-to-kill surveillance. First breach and your guild is permanently disqualified. Second breach and it's disbanded.

So, how about it? Sirken?! Nilbog?!?

[Speedi]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the FACTS.

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

we get handed ToV loot?

wut?

I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.

Originally Posted by Stormfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Has Awakened actually ever dominated anything though? Not really.

Rampage > All.

Stop putting Taken in the mix of guilds who actually mattered and/or accomplished anything.

That's pretty accurate. I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets. We was hoping the smaller guilds would have a better chance. But we all know what happened there as well. To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics. Also I am not blaming my Rampage pals, I guess its goes back to the old saying "If you hang around dogs long enough your going to catch fleas"

As for Rampage we dominated Velious then once we got tired of killing the same target over and over we decided to call it quits. Some AFK'd for a while (like myself) some quit for good. Want proof you say? Just look at the server first Vulak kill, and see how many of those Rampage are still around.

The ones that wanted to continue raiding voted on a new guild name and all my Rampage pals and Taken merged to form a new guild called Awakened. The leadership was voted on also. I refused to go over to the fact the very few times I ever had problems with people on this server it was someone with a Taken tag. I know every guild has their problem child, and no guild is perfect. But facts are facts.

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right. Since Taken never raided hardcore, for the guild to survive they needed it. I can remember in Rampage a full recharge session costing 300-400k for a full week, sometimes more. Hell Sontalak alone (which Rampage killed every week) was 200k or so recharge. Taken didn't have that kind of resources to do that every week.

To put it into perspective on how bad Taken was ... I can remember towards the end of Rampage, Taken wanting to help Rampage out on Sontalak, we quickly told them "Thanks but NO thanks!" This was because we couldn't depend on Taken not getting low HP agro and flipping the dragon and getting us killed. Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight. Then another time, we asked a select few of their members. We got the Sontalak killed, with like 10 or so Taken. Basically the ones we hand picked and could count on, Eratani was one of them. If I recall correctly that was the last time we ever asked them.

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are. So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP. If the truth is known they are STILL carrying them till this day, but I cant confirm that since I am not in the guild. What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true. This is nothing personal, its just the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts right?

Love,

Speedi

[Lojik]

Why do I have a feeling this is going to go to like page 400

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do I have a feeling this is going to go to like page 400

It won't, I just shut them up with the truth. That's hard to spin my friend

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It won't, I just shut them up with the truth. That's hard to spin my friend

But...kill lists bro.

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But...kill lists bro.

was referring to their smug attitude's that they are all that. Not about their weekly kill lists