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Old 10-11-2016, 06:59 PM
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Properly geared, yup, since they get higher skillcaps than knights on their melee defense skills like Dodge, Riposte. Not sure on the difference in Stamina to HP return, but the mitigation is pretty ridiculous.

Busted class is busted, there's a good reason their tanking abilities got nerfed in Luclin. And a good reason why everyone and their grandmother has a lizard monk here.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:03 PM
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If the monk is 50+ and has epic then usually casters aren't hard to interrupt at all if your group understands push mechanics, and versus stun immune or MR mobs there is no question that monks are better at interrupting. But again, a lot of it is predicated on how experienced your group members are.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:10 PM
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If they ever release level 60 monks triple attack you are gonna see some crazy dps.
meh dps +10% = crazy.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:14 PM
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meh dps +10% = crazy.
2h dmg bonus+triple attack+offhand trick, won't be surprised to see monks top most dps parses, probably hundreds of trorsmangs on the server too.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:21 PM
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Monks rarely cover the role of tanking in 6-person pick-up groups. As a Monk, you will primarily be pulling and DPSing in group settings. Monks may be good at mitigating incoming damage, but their aggro management mostly only goes one way -> dropping aggro.
I mean what does a war have for agro that a monk doesnt? dont they just use procs & clicks?
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:43 PM
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I mean what does a war have for agro that a monk doesnt? dont they just use procs & clicks?
Who said anything about Warriors? In group settings, who you really want to tank is a good Paladin. If you can't get that, then an SK.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:50 PM
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The mages in my pick up groups always insist on letting their pets tank.
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:52 PM
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Even though accumulating AC with Velious is fairly trivial, I don't think monks can accumulate quite as much hp; their HP/STA might be lower?
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Old 10-11-2016, 07:56 PM
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3. What group is more efficient? One with a warrior, sk, pally, or a monk tanking, and why?
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Old 10-11-2016, 08:07 PM
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I have a running discussion/debate with a pal of mine, and often times the monk class is brought up. We have a difference in opinion on the class, and I was curious to see if more experienced players would have more insight on this topic. My questions are as follows:

1. Are monks overpowered in a group setting?

-------Yes, the class is, technically. Luckily, since the class is well overplayed, chances are you'll see a lot of mediocre monks that make the class just average.

2. Are monks capable of tanking, in fact are they considered the second best tanking class in the game in a group setting?

----Well, technically again, the best tanking class in a group setting is a bard. Luckily, most bards are mediocre and would never attempt this.

3. What group is more efficient? One with a warrior, sk, pally, or a monk tanking, and why?

Mostly SK/Pally because Netflix. But again in theory, bard wins.

I should mention the debate often revolves around how the monk is capable of doing three of the group roles, that being DPS, pulling, and tanking and how according to one of us in this debate no other classes can do so much, and do it so effectively.

---bard does it better. Plus other roles that monks can't. DPS is more than hitting a mob with a stick for the record.

Is it true? Are monks the ultra class that can nearly do it all AND do it great, or are they simply another dps cog in the group setting machinery with a penchant for pulling thanks to FD?

---A well played monk is phenomenal, and there are a few on this server at every level. When I play my monk I feel very shitty compared to what I've seen, and even then I get compliments sometimes from groupmates, just to give you an idea of how low the bar is set.

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