BDA to Phinigel

[Raev]

I mean, his loot list looked pretty sad to me. Even if it took some time for BDA to spin up, 3-4 months of raiding should have been at least 8-10 full clears of everything in Velious. That's what, maybe 400 items? That's like 6 Velious items per person.Not to mention,

Originally Posted by Man0war

Trollolol played a necro. The first sick FT robe isn't going to a class with lower issues with mana than say a Cleric or Wizard. It would be like an enchanter asking for Vulak robe or KT boots. You are going to have less priority on that stuff.

So your raid as a whole gets -50 mana per tick rather than +3 because you lost a high attendance member. That doesn't sound like a win to me.

[Daldaen]

Let's continue discussing how incredible Luclin itemization is in that casters actually gain power from the items!

Wow focus effects, FT stacking to 15, so many incredible choices! Dunno how it took them 2 years to come up with loot that actually did stuff for casters.

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Man0warr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In Velious, when FT was scarce, it was better to go to a cleric. Just not enough time to farm Vulak now with Luclin out - so all those casters who wanted it are out of luck. Plus FT rains from the sky in Luclin, you can get a third of the cap or more in one item from easier raids in Luclin.

Not to mention, Trollolol played a necro. The first sick FT robe isn't going to a class with lower issues with mana than say a Cleric or Wizard. It would be like an enchanter asking for Vulak robe or KT boots.

FT for a cleric literally does very little outside of smallish raid stuff

it does absolutely nothing for a CH chain for example as your CH chain is only as good as your worse couple of clerics. Once those guys start running OOM, your FT beefcake clerics cant cast CH fast enough to sustain a chain so its irrelevant if they squeeze out an extra 2 CHs during the encounter.

Now prioritizing FT on support healing classes like DRUIDS is the smart way to utilize classes as it will synergize with the druids already built in mana regen and allow them to properly patch or off tank heal for you in a more sustained manner allowing for more stable engages when adds are present or spot heals are needed.

Putting all your FT on your clerics is useless unless all clerics in your CH chain have the exact same items which might be what Trololololololololololol is eluding too.

[arsenalpow]

Every single KT minus one has been turned into boots. Sorry not sorry

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FT for a cleric literally does very little outside of smallish raid stuff

it does absolutely nothing for a CH chain for example as your CH chain is only as good as your worse couple of clerics. Once those guys start running OOM, your FT beefcake clerics cant cast CH fast enough to sustain a chain so its irrelevant if they squeeze out an extra 2 CHs during the encounter.

Now prioritizing FT on support healing classes like DRUIDS is the smart way to utilize classes as it will synergize with the druids already built in mana regen and allow them to properly patch or off tank heal for you in a more sustained manner allowing for more stable engages when adds are present or spot heals are needed.

Putting all your FT on your clerics is useless unless all clerics in your CH chain have the exact same items which might be what Trololololololololololol is eluding too.

Lol... This argument sounds very familiar....

[Chubbler]

Just waiting for an OGC member to upgrade to Robe of Secrets from Vulak robe so we can see Moardots fill another 10 pages with his tears.

[Raev]

That Robe of Secrets is straight up nasty. I wonder if a Wizard with FT15, evocation damage focus items, and spell crits/AAs might actually be decent in a group on Phinny.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See that's the thing. Expansions come every 3-4 months or whatever. So in cases of very contested items that are BiS for many classes. There's a good chance you'll never see it cause you won't continue raiding that target long enough for everyone that wants one to get one. Or you'll be raiding content that drops better stuff. But in the case of BDA's current loot council it wouldn't shock me in the least if emp robe was clr usable that they'd be giving it to clrs to upgrade their vulak robes while the casters are hung out to dry. At least with DKP you can choose to save up DKP to splurge on the one item you really want.

You can attempt to splurge on it, having a bunch of DKP doesn't guarantee you'll get it in any case and DKP can be gamed. /random can't be gamed.

Besides, in a world of instances, what's stopping you from forming a pick up raid to go after the old content after the guild moved on to the next expansion?

[Relbaic]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Let's continue discussing how incredible Luclin itemization is in that casters actually gain power from the items!

Wow focus effects, FT stacking to 15, so many incredible choices! Dunno how it took them 2 years to come up with loot that actually did stuff for casters.

Oh man, playing as a SK with focus effects is AMAZING. Lifetaps working properly, dots actually landing. I feel so useful!

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was in a raid guild for a bit in WoW that used /random and it was retarded. Has to be some kind of measure to reward people that put in more time and effort or else whats the point.

Nothing stopping you from going after old content. But to go after Vulak you'd still need a pretty hefty raid force even with Luclin gear. Also who wants to have to go farm old content just to get gear? If I'm in a raiding guild and attending 80%+ of the raids that happen 6-7 days a week shouldn't I be getting a decent share of current content items?

Actually w/ /random, those who attend more are already rewarded with more opportunities to /random. More /randoms over a shorter interval increases the likelihood of a winning random over the same period, means more loot for those with higher attendance ^^