Awakened Banned 10 days

[kurtis]

Originally Posted by Junias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure do like to talk a lot about things that you have zero clue on. Really surprising coming from a CSG officer to be speculating and flaming like this.

Uhhhh, he's almost dead on with his assessment.

Not sure what planet you're living on.

[arsenalpow]

But isn't it just 10000% easier and less shady to just document this shit when a new grey area tactic pops up? Then you don't have up and coming guilds out of the loop, and you don't have this perceived bias. That's really the gross part for me, it feels like the staff could not give two shits about clean competition when they keep rulings locked behind the Skype group of break Detoxx and getsome.

[Swish]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the staff would just make sure every scenario is covered it wouldn't be an issue. Zero transparency means you don't know the racing "meta" so you're doomed to lose the vast majority of the time. Then sirken suspends one guild when both had been doing it and both admitted openly that it was an employed tactic. The whole thing is gross.

Why you bashing staff mate? Because they wouldn't put a nice ring fenced Velious rotation in?

[raato]

Originally Posted by Junias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You sure do like to talk a lot about things that you have zero clue on. Really surprising coming from a CSG officer to be speculating and flaming like this.

Please, do enlighten me what I'm misunderstanding? Did Aw officers tell their players to stop using alt-tab jumping? Did they not ask him to make some public apology about it when there was alot more than just him in Aw that were/are still using the same thing? Did he get kicked out or did he just leave the guild after denying the public apology?

I'm not really flaming, just trying to understand how this whole scenario goes.

[Bellringer]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your comment just makes it even more look like Awakened leadership crucifies good players to save their own faces when they had full knowledge about the cheat and still didn't tell their players to stop using it after being asked to. And I don't wanna throw a guy in the mud for his leaders decisions, but seems like your guild wants.

This is where you have a fact or two wrong raato

[Junias]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This far from a flame raato. It doesn't matter if he's CSG or not, he's right. He doesn't sound clueless either. He sounds bitter knowing a few are ruining it for anyone not cheating....

Note that I didn't argue anything he said about FTEing. He's simply making assumptions about leadership and treatment of Hjial without having any real information. Speculating and jumping to conclusions in RNF is not what I'd expect from a respected guilds officers.

[RedXIII]

I am old enough to have seen Nalken cheat to get FTE's in VP.
I have seen people alt+tab to win in ToV... and still here i am, not cheating and with ALL my youtube videos still showing because i have nothing to hide. I doubt the competition can say the same thing about it.

So instead of blaming some cheating scandal for been a loser, do better. Its possible.

As Chest said, players in both guilds were doing this and only one gets the ban hammer... sounds good. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[khanable]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But isn't it just 10000% easier and less shady to just document this shit when a new grey area tactic pops up? Then you don't have up and coming guilds out of the loop, and you don't have this perceived bias. That's really the gross part for me, it feels like the staff could not give two shits about clean competition when they keep rulings locked behind the Skype group of break Detoxx and getsome.

Grey area shit goes undetected for a while and lands wins. Itll be an uphill battle of low tier nerds not in the loop on this months grey area shit that hasn't been publicly outed.

If the goal is even ground it should just be stated what is allowed and anything outside of that is illegal and open to suspension (which imo most guilds are already operating under this assumption ).

Or nuke all limits and let the beardiest survive!

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If they didn't have any fte vids with the chat, why did they suddenly set all their vids to private....

Hence my choice word "documented". I don't doubt they alt-tabbed their way to victory somewhere; but they beat you to the punch getting the paperwork filed and covered their asses better.

[arsenalpow]

I'm not the biggest fan of the Phinny ruleset but it's at least consistent and less grimy.