Awakened Banned 10 days

[Man0warr]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not to give anyone erection or anything, but:


Frog paladin

You could do it - Legacy of Ykesha unlocks same day as PoP.

[mefdinkins]

Originally Posted by Phantasm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, Mefdinkins, when did you start chuggin' that AW Koolaid. They got you good fren.

On March 6, 2016, BDA was suspended for stalling on Aveira's Severilous engage. I saw the individuals I played with and knew, who strived to comply with server rules, punished for what I considered an arbitrary interpretation of the rules. Since then I realized that there may be more to the "DIRTY CHEATER" claims made on RNF and have tried to look at the raid scene objectively.

Awakened is just a group of individuals trying to have fun playing P99. We have a RL picture thread, we have lives outside of P99. I was just as shocked in Awakened as I was in BDA to see a lot of players break gamer stereotypes and of course some that reinforce those stereotypes. Awakened isn't some evil entity that sets their batphones up every night and jumps up out of bed to say, "F Everyone Else!" When I do leave my batphone on (I usually turn it off to get a good night's rest) it's because I have fun on a particular encounter and want to try to kill that raid mob with some of my internet buddies. I'd say most of the guild shares that sentiment.

The majority of raiders in Awakened maintain between 15% and 35% attendance, for the last 30 days that is 17 - 39 raids - sometimes 5 targets can take less time than say a whole HOT Raid would in a more casual guild. We also have some of the most hardcore players in the game who invest a lot into tracking and FTE'ing. Awakened has a good system because the batphone warriors support the hardcore players and vice versa. The officers have promoted growth and created a system that properly rewards contributions to the guild and incentivizes people to keep contributing and stay motivated.

Awakened has also molded itself to be successful in the current P99 raid environment. Were multiple guilds and players "alt+tabbing?" Yes. Does Awakened set out to violate server rules or crush casuals? No. Does Awakened's competition and 'min-maxing' push out or monopolize content for casuals? Unfortunately, yes. Could a much more casual guild kill Zlandicar? Hell yes. Could they do so on 10 minutes notice at 3:00am on a Tuesday? Probably not.

I don't think that Aw, AM, CSG, of FAV molding and adjusting their guild's policies and practices is some giant reflection of the ethics or morals of P99. Two weeks ago I didn't think it was immoral to screen share during bind sight or unethical to "alt+tab." Now that the raid rules have been made clear, I think it would be unethical to knowingly violate P99's prohibition on "alt+tab jumping" during an FTE race. I don't think that Hjial is a bad person because he alt tabbed on 12/19. I don't think that Awakened are bad people for killing Vulak on 12/19.

So why am I in Awakened Vetus? It fits well for me and is easy to maintain low to average attendance in Awakened because raids can happen 24/7 in any week. With more raiding it also means if there's a big target in window or something exciting happening I don't have to feel guilty skipping or missing it b/c we'll likely see that encounter again soon. I also love that after a million years I finally saw all the content Velious/Kunark have to offer. The guild has great numbers, so I never feel guilty about calling it a night even if some targets are due to spawn soon. In some ways I feel free to play more casually than I did in a casual guild. I also enjoy playing with a lot of people. In arguably the most social game ever, I enjoy being social with many and have benefited from a lot of my guildies' help and I really enjoy reciprocating that assistance when I can. Competing more in this environment has also let me work on mechanics and develop as a player. I am proud to be in Awakened and I do enjoy being the self titled dopest ass gnome wizard in the guild.

All that being said, I think it's embarrassing that I take this game serious enough to spend so much time on it and on the corresponding forums. I also think it's childish for people to lash out at other humans so much over this game. There's occasions where I feel bad for people who play, I also feel bad for people who seem to have their ego very tightly wrapped around their self perceived success/lack of success/or previous success on P99. I don't have much animus towards anyone on this game and I don't hate any individual solely because of their guild tag.

So Vetus, my TLDR of "when did I start chugging the Awakened Koolaid" is: when I realized characters on P99 are more than their just their guild tag and decided I would not make judgments on other players based on hate and anger filled RNF posts.

[Mistle]

"Unfortunately, yes" to pushing casuals out of content? You do realize no one is holding a gun to your head to do this right?

I mean, you say all the right things, but when you're sitting in muck and all around you is squealing and snorting, maybe what you say isn't really the important part.

[khanable]

Mefdinkins was in bda? Lol

Guess that's why the name is familiar

[Hevie]

Unfortunately (fortunately) EverQuest raiding was designed to promote competition. We all have different ideas about what is fun.. personally, I couldnt give a shit about loot (I can still log into my monk/war/etc and gawk at shrouds and sods etc).. the only enjoyment I get from EverQuest is the competition. Rotations would kill that dead. I understand that there are a lot of players who simply want to fight bosses at their leisure.. to them I say go play Phinny or some emulated server that promotes taking turns.

I got a lot of grief on Live from Triton, Harmonium, Altera Vita and many other guilds. I spent a lot of time wishing I had been able to see more content than I currently had. But, those pitfalls made killing that content much much more enjoyable and I wouldn't have it any other way.

What I could do without is the clown show rule set, the over saturation of raiders per content, and the borked timeline

[Phantasm]

All i meant was, if youre gonna break the rules and get caught may as well fess up and try to minimize the loss. This "well they were doing it to" bullshit is what makes the raid scene what it is.

If youre having fun, by all means please do, but dont pretend either of the As are going to change their tactics because of a single missed cycle

[Hevie]

Vetus of were very cool while I knew you in BDA but sadly you seem to have grown very bitter.

Got caught? Please.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Hevie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Unfortunately (fortunately) EverQuest raiding was designed to promote competition. We all have different ideas about what is fun.. personally, I couldnt give a shit about loot (I can still log into my monk/war/etc and gawk at shrouds and sods etc).. the only enjoyment I get from EverQuest is the competition. Rotations would kill that dead. I understand that there are a lot of players who simply want to fight bosses at their leisure.. to them I say go play Phinny or some emulated server that promotes taking turns.

I got a lot of grief on Live from Triton, Harmonium, Altera Vita and many other guilds. I spent a lot of time wishing I had been able to see more content than I currently had. But, those pitfalls made killing that content much much more enjoyable and I wouldn't have it any other way.

What I could do without is the clown show rule set, the over saturation of raiders per content, and the borked timeline

Dunno I never really cared for inter-guild competition. Instead make challenging PvE Raid content and let me compete against the mechanics of the raid. It's actually possible to do this in a way such that only the guilds who play the best win the raids and the bad guilds continually wipe until they collapse, merge or have a break through.

PoP - Guilds failed at Bertoxulous, Rallos Zek, Fennin Ro, Coirnav, Dust Ring, Warlord Gintolaken, Rathe Council, Tallon Zek (Time), and Rallos Zek (Time) due to the mechanics in these events.
GoD - Holy shit everything to start. Now that it's tuned back... Ikkinz 3/4, Uqua, Inktuta the Cursecallers and Noqufiel, High Priest in Txevu, Zun Muram in Txevu, North Snake Tacvi, Balance Zun Tacvi and Tunat Muram.
OoW - Queen/King in RSS, MPG Adapation and Foresight Trials, Jelvan, Arch Magus and OMM
DoN - Vishimtar
DoDH - Emperor Draygun, Sendaii, Demiplane Sister, Hatchet, Redfang, Performer and Mayong


Etc. etc. These are all raids that took many guilds 5-10-20+ attempts to beat. Finally having everything click and beating the event was the best experience. I recall finally beating Fumerak in sepulchre after probably 20 wipes, beating the First Creation in Convorteum after 20ish wipes. Hell basically every single Underfoot raid was awesome to kill first time through. Brell himself holy shit was that encounter awesome before it was watered down.

But... getting to a mob before another guild did at 3 AM, meh I'll pass doesn't do anything for me.

[Hevie]

One of the most rewarding kills for me on Live was getting Emperor down at 3 AM with 55 (mostly 2-3box) after being cockblocking for months.

[Phantasm]

Originally Posted by Hevie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vetus of were very cool while I knew you in BDA but sadly you seem to have grown very bitter.

Got caught? Please.

Im a far stretch from active but what played out is like this:
Two cars are speeding down the highway. The cars are going the same speed. One car gets pulled over for soeeding. The pulled over car pleads "But he was speeding too!" Or, depending who you ask, "He was speeding first!!"

Do I think AM should get the same punishment? Absolutely, but dont pretend innocence. "I manipulated my FPS so i could run/jump faster." While not denoted as against the rules, obviously not in the spirit of the rules. Does that really sound like a legit mechanic to you?