Druid v Wizard

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bipolar isn't based on emotion it is based on a chemical imbalance.

Exactly ... which is why drugs work better for them than therapy (although therapy can of course also be helpful).

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Manic people aren't emotional they are delusional.

Emotional
relating to a person's emotions.
arousing or characterized by intense feeling.
(of a person) having feelings that are easily excited and openly displayed.

Sounds a lot like how a manic person acts to me; their chemical imbalance makes them very emotional, and they can go from totally normal to complete nerd rage in about 0.8 seconds (and that's not even talking about their hypomanic and depressed phases).

Again, not like there's anyone like that on this server ...

EDITED: to be less of an asshole

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exactly ... which is why drugs work better for them than therapy (although therapy can of course also be helpful).


You don't even have to be a psychiatrist to know this is wrong: anyone who has ever met someone who's manic knows that their chemical imbalance makes them very emotional. They can go from totally normal to complete nerd rage in about 0.8 seconds (and that's not even talking about their hypomanic and depressed phases).

Again, not like there's anyone like that on this server ...

But the difference is that the bipolar has an internal source and manic and depressive phases aren't affected by things other people do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Btw manic people are my favorite people to treat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I have a soft spot for the borderlines though, even though other clinicians hate the drama.

Honestly, the Axis I and the Axis II kind of coexist more often than not and when the mania starts to clear from the drugs the emotional regulation starts to go crazy.

I'm not counting hypomanic phases...those are pretty nice to experience as long as you can sleep and eat and not become a complete maniac.

Worse class for mental health: shaman. All the canni dancing is stressful.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the difference is that the bipolar has an internal source and manic and depressive phases aren't affected by things other people do [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're emotional, and taking their drugs makes them less emotional (much less emotional than giving them some therapy). I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell you're going to convince me that therapy makes a bipolar person, in any phase, less emotional than giving them drugs, so I stand by my statement.

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Btw manic people are my favorite people to treat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I have a soft spot for the borderlines though, even though other clinicians hate the drama.

Ok I can understand the manics, they tend to be charismatic (especially when "up"). But I'm surprised about the borderlines, I'd think they'd all just be assholes (but then again I guess the point is to make them less asshole-ish, huh?).

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Worse class for mental health: shaman. All the canni dancing is stressful.

Now this I can agree with.

<== Shaman, sanity questionable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They're emotional, and taking their drugs makes them less emotional (much less emotional than giving them some therapy). I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell you're going to convince me that therapy makes a bipolar person, in any phase, less emotional than giving them drugs, so I stand by my statement.

This is true. But any ethical psychiatrist is going to insist their patient be involved in learning things like coping strategies and actually trying to solve their life problems, and prevent things like self-sabotage. Some of them run pill boutiques and give a pill per symptom. There are some shitty psychiatrists out there...giving away benzos for long periods and stuff like that.

Borderlines can be difficult. The hardest part is getting them to accept that they aren't Bipolar and that they aren't suffering from GAD....that they are just uncontrollably emotional and have terrible abandonment issues, often stemming from some horrible trauma they've experienced and what they had to do to survive it. In this population skills like mindfulness, radical acceptance, and interpersonal effectiveness are more helpful [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] If you can get them to a place of insight into their health.

People don't like hearing that their personality is the problem. So you have to be sneaky about approaching it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Skinned [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People don't like hearing that their personality is the problem. So you have to be sneaky about approaching it.

You're a braver man than I ... now go give some people some drugs! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a braver man than I ... now go give some people some drugs! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The chairs where I work weigh 60 pounds....quite unthrowable!

Gotta be fleet of foot and all that.

[Troxx]

Druid is a much more capable and well rounded class than wizard. Given a choice and all other things considered equal, I'd rather have a Druid in group than a wizard 99% of the time. Thorns allows the Druid to contribute more total damage over time despite having inferior raw nukes (total and efficiency). When you then consider the Druid has the regen line, hp buffs that stack with shaman, heals, snares ...

No contest.

[bum3]

So.. by the last few posts you can say if you are chemical imbalanced play a wizard?

Emotionally stable play a druid.

[Skinned]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Druid is a much more capable and well rounded class than wizard. Given a choice and all other things considered equal, I'd rather have a Druid in group than a wizard 99% of the time. Thorns allows the Druid to contribute more total damage over time despite having inferior raw nukes (total and efficiency). When you then consider the Druid has the regen line, hp buffs that stack with shaman, heals, snares ...

No contest.

So if you have a shaman slowing and a cleric healing you would take a druid over wiz for DPS because of thorns?

[Rang]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's true but in all honesty I am thinking of while leveling up. This guy is starting out new.

Maybe at 60 a druid holding charm for dps is viable, but how many charm spots do you know of for druids below 60 where a group will invite a druid to hold a charm? I can't think of any.

Kedge, perma, solb, and chardok come to mind for sub 60 Druid charming in groups. Wizzies are great for killing 32k hp dragons quickly. Playstyle will dictate what class is best for OP, but if first starting on P99 Druid prob the wiser (bad dum tiss) choice. If your heart pines to be a wiz, roll a wiz then. P99 all about your own journey through the realm of Norrath.