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[letsdance]

you all really think you got one full level of exp for turning in 4 gnoll fangs at level 6? did you really ever play EQ back then? 4 gnoll fangs is nothing. i played in bb from 5-6 and then got almost to 10(!) just by turning in the 17 gnoll fangs that i got. this is not classic EQ. of course those levels don't matter alot, but you never got so much exp for this. i know for sure that i got one level for one stack (20) gnoll fangs at lvl 7. and that was ALOT.

you didn't make one level by killing and then 3 more levels by turning in the quest items that you found during this one level. in fact, quests usually didn't give noticeable exp in EQ, gnoll fangs was one of the very few exceptions. i've played a characater to level 6 only by doing quests back then, without ever killing for exp. i know what i'm talking about.

i am not sure about the monster speed - hence the question mark at this line. but i know i couldn't run through half a zone at lvl 5(!) with a red con on me, like i did this weekend when i ran my iksar to qeynos. not even in higher lvls where the 3 levels (difference for a red con) matter less.

i am also sure about not being able to kill yellow cons at level 1 without any skillups. lvl 2 is double as tough as level 1, thats a much higher difference than at higher lvls.

of course people make exp much faster now, because they are more experienced, and i know it will never be the same feeling. even if we didn't know EQ, simply because people now know how to play such games efficiently. but those things were differently from the mechanics.

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you all really think you got one full level of exp for turning in 4 gnoll fangs at level 6? did you really ever play EQ back then? 4 gnoll fangs is nothing. i played in bb from 5-6 and then got almost to 10(!) just by turning in the 17 gnoll fangs that i got. this is not classic EQ. of course those levels don't matter alot, but you never got so much exp for this. i know for sure that i got one level for one stack (20) gnoll fangs at lvl 7. and that was ALOT.

Strange, I only got one level at level 7/8 when I was turning in a stack of fangs the other day. Seems right on par with what you mentioned live was like.

In short, show us a screenshot or a fraps video of you getting a level of exp for 4 gnoll fangs at level 6, and we'll talk.

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in fact, quests usually didn't give noticeable exp in EQ, gnoll fangs was one of the very few exceptions. i've played a characater to level 6 only by doing quests back then, without ever killing for exp. i know what i'm talking about.

You could also do that with bone chips and crushbone belts or deathfist belts. I'm not convinced you do.

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am not sure about the monster speed - hence the question mark at this line. but i know i couldn't run through half a zone at lvl 5(!) with a red con on me, like i did this weekend when i ran my iksar to qeynos. not even in higher lvls where the 3 levels (difference for a red con) matter less.

Mobs are faster here than they were on live. Period - i've never seen anyone complain that the mobs are slower here, only tons of complaints that they're faster, and that people can't outrun mobs as easily. You'll have to provide some kind of evidence so people can figure out what detail you're leaving out. And if you're using your jumps properly and strafing, you can definitely run half a zone with a red con on you if you have enough distance.

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i am also sure about not being able to kill yellow cons at level 1 without any skillups. lvl 2 is double as tough as level 1, thats a much higher difference than at higher lvls.

Done it plenty of times on untwinked characters, even non-pet classes. Could make a level 1 caster and do it very easily - or a level 1 paladin or SK - or even a monk. Even a warrior could do it. You're mistaken.

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

of course people make exp much faster now, because they are more experienced, and i know it will never be the same feeling. even if we didn't know EQ, simply because people now know how to play such games efficiently. but those things were differently from the mechanics.

I've given you a thorough response because i'm not sure yet whether you're trolling - but you haven't produced a single mechanic that's significantly easier than live (although i'd grant some quests might give a little more exp than normal - but not the numbers and amounts you're quoting). Give us some evidence on quest exp and we'll see. Nilbog actually recently nerfed some quest exp (I think it was just for certain cabilis quests), so maybe it was a little high - but i've done all those quests you mentioned and more, and none of them gave absurd amounts of exp.

[Knightmare]

Originally Posted by letsdance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i know what i'm talking about.

This claim right here, along with an inability to capitalize the first letter of your sentences, gives me reason to pause and ponder the validity of your statements. And likely sets off warning bells for the devs.. I know.. I've seen it before lol.

Not to say you're wrong or ignorant. But usually, when someone newer rolls on here and questions the validity of the devs doing their homework (on our free server btw) by making the above claim.. and then can not or does not show documented proof of such.. well.. Messianic pretty well covered it.

You may well have a point, however this is not WoW where we come on the forums and say how we remember it and get changes. We need to make a case logically, with proof. Point also: you said these were "such small differences" but the length and breadth of your post belies this statement.

Like Messianic, I too am unsure if you're trolling or not. You say you aren't but kind of come off like you are, maybe it just isn't translating well.

If you are trolling though, "authentical" is not a word [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]