Ogres - what makes them so superior?

[indiscriminate_hater]

frontal stun immunity, and don't let the haters tell you otherwise

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

frontal stun immunity, and don't let the haters tell you otherwise

This guy speaks truth.

Stun immunity is huge for shamans. I've played both in velious, borrowed characters, and I succeed more often with the ogre than the troll. Getting interrupted on those torpors sucks.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This guy speaks truth.

Stun immunity is huge for shamans. I've played both in velious, borrowed characters, and I succeed more often with the ogre than the troll. Getting interrupted on those torpors sucks.

That's another experiment I did, granted I did not have torpor on two toons to compare or even two 60s, but only lower lvl shamans to compare.

On my barbarian shaman the amount of interrupts when trying to land spells compared to my ogre shaman which is 55 now is unbelievable.

I mean it's not just slightly noticeable, it's every encounter the barb has if a spell gets resisted, chances of him getting interrupted on the next attempt to land a spell is quite high where as the ogre rarely gets interrupted.

I suspected this could be the case for shamans, it didn't really surprise me. I was just hoping once barbarian spiritist's hammer began proccing, it might make up for the interrupts, but it did not. The hammer didn't proc enough for me to deal with the constant interrupts and stuns the barb shaman would take.

What has surprised me the most is on the warriors though.

My halfling warrior is 40+ and I found him fun, but when I hopped back on my old ogre warrior, used some shrink pots and played him it's just stupid how much more effective he is in every aspect of grouping as a warrior.

The ogre warrior holds aggro easier, he hits harder, he hits more often, he feels tankier. I really feel like there are some hidden statistical values on this race.

I just wish I could make a ogre necro ffs, and a ogre rogue. That would be pretty cool. Imagine the BS's an ogre rogue would land. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Samoht]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

he hits harder, he hits more often

This just sounds made up. At this point, it's anecdotal at best. Do you have any logs to support your claim?

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Samoht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This just sounds made up. At this point, it's anecdotal at best. Do you have any logs to support your claim?

It's purely anecdotal, I never claimed I was a walking/talking facts machine. But I know how it feels and the ogre feels far superior.

People answered though and gave their honest opinions on the matter, and it's clear I am not alone in noticing how much more superior the ogre is.

Clearly others have noticed the difference too. Their experiences were also purely anecdotal btw. No logs to support their claims, guess that means it's false in your nerd-world right?

[maskedmelonpai]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I know how it feels and the ogre feels far superior.

it cause they massive. size matters....


that said, i ain't never ogre before. couldn't stomach it :c but they will hit harder, you definitely right there.

best thing about ogres is they talking, liek the good ones. they sound so cute :3 dbl shrunk tiny ogre ftw ^^

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by maskedmelonpai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it cause they massive. size matters....


that said, i ain't never ogre before. couldn't stomach it :c but they will hit harder, you definitely right there.

best thing about ogres is they talking, liek the good ones. they sound so cute :3 dbl shrunk tiny ogre ftw ^^

All great points, MM. The only way I can play the ogre is shrunken, too. Otherwise targeting is a real PITA, especially on my warrior. When shrunk though, it's a ton of fun. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ogre warrior holds aggro easier, he hits harder, he hits more often, he feels tankier. I really feel like there are some hidden statistical values on this race.

This is not accurate, sorry. For the purposes of holding aggro an ogre warrior only has the advantage that they do not get stunned from the front - which means less lost potential melee threat. This is counterbalanced in that they have lower starting dexterity than other warriors and will proc less over time.

Ogres do hit harder at lower levels. Higher strength equates to higher str bonuses and greater attack. Strength values equal (either by gear or buffs) and they do no more or less damage than warrior races of other class ... except for that time that might have been lost while being stunned briefly with bashes.

There are no hidden statistical values for ogres. What you see is what you get.

[Tropica]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just wish I could make a ogre necro ffs, and a ogre rogue. That would be pretty cool. Imagine the BS's an ogre rogue would land. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ogres...big...loud....noticable.

i suspect Hide would be a class-breaker. would you be willing to sacrifice Sneak for this?