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Old 05-11-2017, 10:12 PM
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well that's just not true
Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:19 PM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.
100% truth
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:20 AM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.
This is well-put and explains a lot.

So, is there a way to improve the raiding on p99, or is this the best it can get?
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:28 AM
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So, is there a way to improve the raiding on p99, or is this the best it can get?
Just continually hit the earthquake button til the hardcores burn out/lose their jobs/families/etc.
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Old 05-12-2017, 05:13 AM
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Just continually hit the earthquake button til the hardcores burn out/lose their jobs/families/etc.
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:20 PM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once
I actually saved a quote you made during Kunark saying how we were going to get "dominated in Velious," just to give me a little motivation to kick that ass. Thanks for that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:44 PM
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I actually saved a quote you made during Kunark saying how we were going to get "dominated in Velious," just to give me a little motivation to kick that ass. Thanks for that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
The shit talking was real. Motivated both sides at the time because of the length of Kunark I imagine. Most of that stuff was to troll though if I posted it in RNF. I used to love when that person in your guild would spend hours making graphs to show what you guys killed and post em in RNF. I don't think he ever grasped that all RNF posts were made just to make people react.
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