A/A strategy finally worked after a few years

[Freakish]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You asked a question and then answered it yourself... The server rules right now include FTE racing on some targets, if you dont like it then agnarr is a few days away.

You're an idiot and not worth reading.

[Bones]

Originally Posted by gnatte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSG just shows its true colors by running off after the most raid mobs they ever had while we were suspended for almost a month, we came back and they decided having to try was too hard they only want free pixels! Only the hardcore EQ fans survive and they eventually join one of the few high end guilds, nothing evil about it just the way things work but everyone wants to act like its some conspiracy.

so now the only ones getting free pixels are A/A with zero competition just like they want it

[Cecily]

Wish you and Deterks would stop with the pedantry. Of course you guys don't actually track a mob for 16 hours straight. It's hyperbole. What you actually do keep multiple mobs tracked across multiple zones tracked for much, much longer. It's funny because it's pathetic.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wish you and Deterks would stop with the pedantry. Of course you guys don't actually track a mob for 16 hours straight. It's hyperbole. What you actually do keep multiple mobs tracked across multiple zones tracked for much, much longer. It's funny because it's pathetic.

and yet its honestly also super easy to do. No one person is spending 10 hours straight let alone 16hours straight really. You set up a screen share before you go to work and multiple different people "track" while youre away.

[Gimp]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

and yet its honestly also super easy to do. No one person is spending 10 hours straight let alone 16hours straight really. You set up a screen share before you go to work and multiple different people "track" while youre away.

well that's just not true

[Caiu]

Bunch of casuals. It was way funner after that original Nagafen AW suspension. A brilliant plan to spread raid timers out over around a week was enacted by AM. 16 hours? Bah you aren't really getting to the fun part of raiding until you've tracked the same screeenshares for 30-40 hours straight or made a pet track hotkey Jarekn tells you,'Attacking Vulak Master. That you mash once a millisecond.

It's been amusing over the years to see how much end game scene has improved immensely yet the crying never stops. You are in a world with limited resources even with strict rotations you may never get that coveted item you desire. That's EQ and what makes it so great is it really feels like a living world. You make of it what you will and some sit for years occasionally nabbing some top gear here and there in casual guilds. On the other flip side there are those who recognize that in a system made up of limited resources if you want the best stuff you will have to put in the effort to obtain it. Especially as populations rise and the same number of resources remain constant competition comes into play.

IMO This is a classic EQ server which comes with most of the baggage of that era. No one is gonna hold your hand, no one is going to give you free loot because you can't be bothered to put in even minimal effort to obtain said loots. There's other places out there that cater to that easy distribution of loot. If that's your goal then why are you here go out and raid your heart out.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by Caiu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bunch of casuals. It was way funner after that original Nagafen AW suspension. A brilliant plan to spread raid timers out over around a week was enacted by AM. 16 hours? Bah you aren't really getting to the fun part of raiding until you've tracked the same screeenshares for 30-40 hours straight or made a pet track hotkey Jarekn tells you,'Attacking Vulak Master. That you mash once a millisecond.

It's been amusing over the years to see how much end game scene has improved immensely yet the crying never stops. You are in a world with limited resources even with strict rotations you may never get that coveted item you desire. That's EQ and what makes it so great is it really feels like a living world. You make of it what you will and some sit for years occasionally nabbing some top gear here and there in casual guilds. On the other flip side there are those who recognize that in a system made up of limited resources if you want the best stuff you will have to put in the effort to obtain it. Especially as populations rise and the same number of resources remain constant competition comes into play.

IMO This is a classic EQ server which comes with most of the baggage of that era. No one is gonna hold your hand, no one is going to give you free loot because you can't be bothered to put in even minimal effort to obtain said loots. There's other places out there that cater to that easy distribution of loot. If that's your goal then why are you here go out and raid your heart out.

some people will give you free loot

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by gnatte [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSG just shows its true colors by running off after the most raid mobs they ever had while we were suspended for almost a month, we came back and they decided having to try was too hard they only want free pixels! Only the hardcore EQ fans survive and they eventually join one of the few high end guilds, nothing evil about it just the way things work but everyone wants to act like its some conspiracy.

Up until the double a/a bans, csg was still advancing through content we had not yet seen. Azure Guard had grown to be a huge guild and csg was putting up ridiculous numbers. When A/A got banned (twice) we got to do most/all of the stuff we had not killed yet. It was fantastic dealing with other civilized people for a short time. Lots of players who had been around since the velious release felt they "beat the game" and that further racing against you was a foolish contest that only the lowest common denominator would win. We lost several good, longterm people to retirement and a group of others went to TAKP. I bet something similar happened within F/V only they went to angar.

CSG is still active and raiding and eventually will try to race again on select targets but right now there is little appetite. A/A goes to crazy extremes to hold on to content They'll burn out eventually. If the leaders of those guilds put their 24/7 drive towards something productive over the last 18 months instead of line racing they could have started a business or built a house.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Up until the double a/a bans, csg was still advancing through content we had not yet seen. Azure Guard had grown to be a huge guild and csg was putting up ridiculous numbers. When A/A got banned (twice) we got to do most/all of the stuff we had not killed yet. It was fantastic dealing with other civilized people for a short time. Lots of players who had been around since the velious release felt they "beat the game" and that further racing against you was a foolish contest that only the lowest common denominator would win. We lost several good, longterm people to retirement and a group of others went to TAKP. I bet something similar happened within F/V only they went to angar.

CSG is still active and raiding and eventually will try to race again on select targets but right now there is little appetite. A/A goes to crazy extremes to hold on to content They'll burn out eventually. If the leaders of those guilds put their 24/7 drive towards something productive over the last 18 months instead of line racing they could have started a business or built a house.

Why do people constantly insist that you cant do both? Ive been in AM since the start and just bought a house so obviously its not impossible. Its just the lies you tell yourself in order to justify your entitlement.

You had mobs handed to you for a month and "beat the game", then why are you still so salty about the raid scene?

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well that's just not true

Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.