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Old 07-06-2017, 11:47 PM
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if progressives are so worried about hard working people, and not the 'takers' then maybe they should just relax because even if it turns out that min wage is unlivable, if you're talking about a hard worker, they're gonna be fine.

The takers, not so much.

So win win

until the takers take one of your families life during a botched robbery but thats another story. (spoiler: you should have taught them how to use a gun)
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:19 AM
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if progressives are so worried about hard working people, and not the 'takers' then maybe they should just relax because even if it turns out that min wage is unlivable, if you're talking about a hard worker, they're gonna be fine.

The takers, not so much.

So win win

until the takers take one of your families life during a botched robbery but thats another story. (spoiler: you should have taught them how to use a gun)
What if we structured society in a way where the lower classes aren't pushed into a life of crime to survive?
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:33 AM
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What if we structured society in a way where the lower classes aren't pushed into a life of crime to survive?
I'll ride for pokesan to the death on this.

Even middle class youths are choosing a life of crime more and more. It's becoming a Brazilian environment with the wealthy, their well-to-do friends second, and everybody else.

The everybody else is steady expanding at the same rate as the wealthy's waistlines.
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Old 07-07-2017, 07:54 AM
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Wow strong nit-picking.

You turning into Lune quoting a woke ass post n going in like that.
Wut?
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Old 07-07-2017, 12:39 PM
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liberals on minimum wage: i have literally never heard of currency devaluation or buying power dollars are magical numbers with an absolute and static value $15 an hour!!!!!!!!!

lol that $15 min wage is currently failing and crippling the city i live in. nobody's hiring, small businesses being pushed out for megacorps everywhere. cost of living rapidly inflating to the point where we're ~3 years from passing up NYC for that #1 slot.
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Old 07-07-2017, 03:21 PM
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liberals on minimum wage: i have literally never heard of currency devaluation or buying power dollars are magical numbers with an absolute and static value $15 an hour!!!!!!!!!

lol that $15 min wage is currently failing and crippling the city i live in. nobody's hiring, small businesses being pushed out for megacorps everywhere. cost of living rapidly inflating to the point where we're ~3 years from passing up NYC for that #1 slot.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...helps-workers/

I am genuenly curious to see how this plays out, I would prefer if WA just sucked it up and kept it going for a good 3-5 years at least, to evaluate the long term effects and not just the imidiate reactionary ones.

I wouldn't be surprised if it worked out well for the city and the workers, or if it went bad for em... at least its actually trying something instead of theorycrafting it for 60 years and doing nothing.
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:13 PM
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This is great, more psycosis.

Game Of Thrones’ Lena Headey Says She Lost Roles By Not Flirting With Directors

When reading the article I came accross this quote from the actress, "There’s a real pressure on women to be beautiful and skinny. When I was in my twenties and doing a lot of audition tapes in the States, a casting director told me: ‘The men take these tapes home and watch them and say, ‘Who would you f—?’ I’ve never played the game of going in [to auditions] and flirting; I’ve never done it and I’m very happy I didn’t."

So... what we have here, is a liberal, who has an incredibly strong carrier, huge successes and a great bright future ahead of her.

And she "never did any of that and am very happy she didnt"

So, she actually proves, that misogyny doesnt define a successful carrier in Hollywood, infact she proves that you DONT have to put up with that shit and you CAN be successful in Hollywood.

However all of reddit, the article and any lefty that sees this link will only see confirmation bias that, because shes a woman she was assaulted by unsolicited flirtations that cost her, her carrier.

Which is totally ass backwards to what REALLY happened.

Liberals, (like meth) Not even once.
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:44 PM
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This is great, more psycosis.

Game Of Thrones’ Lena Headey Says She Lost Roles By Not Flirting With Directors

When reading the article I came accross this quote from the actress, "There’s a real pressure on women to be beautiful and skinny. When I was in my twenties and doing a lot of audition tapes in the States, a casting director told me: ‘The men take these tapes home and watch them and say, ‘Who would you f—?’ I’ve never played the game of going in [to auditions] and flirting; I’ve never done it and I’m very happy I didn’t."

So... what we have here, is a liberal, who has an incredibly strong carrier, huge successes and a great bright future ahead of her.

And she "never did any of that and am very happy she didnt"

So, she actually proves, that misogyny doesnt define a successful carrier in Hollywood, infact she proves that you DONT have to put up with that shit and you CAN be successful in Hollywood.

However all of reddit, the article and any lefty that sees this link will only see confirmation bias that, because shes a woman she was assaulted by unsolicited flirtations that cost her, her carrier.

Which is totally ass backwards to what REALLY happened.

Liberals, (like meth) Not even once.
con·fir·ma·tion bi·as
noun
the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories

I feel like that's what you're doing with this post. That she has lost roles by not playing that game supports the opposing view. I would even go on to say that it suggests that she's an outlier, with pressure to be flirtatious to get a role being the norm. You don't think it be like it is but it do.
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Old 07-07-2017, 05:56 PM
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con·fir·ma·tion bi·as
noun
the tendency to interpret new evidence as confirmation of one's existing beliefs or theories

I feel like that's what you're doing with this post. That she has lost roles by not playing that game supports the opposing view. I would even go on to say that it suggests that she's an outlier, with pressure to be flirtatious to get a role being the norm. You don't think it be like it is but it do.
i think the incels point is that quid-pro-role doesn't happen in the beauty industry

it's a unfactual and untrue point, but at least he has one instead of mindlessly trolling

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Old 07-07-2017, 06:00 PM
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If Paris Hilton has $100 million being managed by investment bankers, in a few years it will grow to $120 million. In the next few years with a higher principle it will grow even more. Paris Hilton's wealth creation is only dependent on aggregate wealth because the wealth itself is the vehicle for income. As her wealth increases, her capacity to generate even more wealth also increases. There is no natural force in the free market that counteracts the tendency of the Paris Hiltons of the worlds' investment accounts to grow over time at a rate totally unparalleled by those who sell their labor.
This is where we want the taxes big boys.

On passive income-- first of all (bring it in line with Britain), and then second, capital gains made during stock market speculation.

I would not increase capital gains tax on anything that was considered a legitimate investment attempt, how would I quantify what is a legitimate investment stock and what is a speculative stock, and what implications or damage that kind of regulation and taxation could cause to the marketplace, I have no idea. I just know speculation deserves higher taxes. I WOULD NOT USE TIME AS A QUALIFIER. EX. current capital gains system is based on time elapsed. I would change that to where time elapsed is irrelevant to whether you qualify for capital gains burden.

Lastly, tax penalties for not having large amounts of personal income invested in the market. I.E. the Paris Hilton's sitting on large swathes of capital with no intention to do domestic business, combined with a very high passive income. Tax it hard, same as Britain. Make them flee to a tax haven and have to renounce citizenship, same as Britain. You want your passive income and seek a passive income lifestyle, you can fucking leave and do it elsewhere.

A passive income lifestyle does not benefit the market. Equally a problem are hedge funds, which end up being black holes of capital-- sucking, killing off, and consolidating labor even when they are functioning as intended at their best. At their worst, the capital just simply ceases to exist, it disappears overnight having been eaten up by other speculators.
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