Why agnarr will not kill p99...

[Mistle]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

PvP teams would certainly draw more of a crowd...new server plus you can level with pals and at least fight together rather than each other. That Velious beta server would be put to the best use <3

For a little while it would until one side got ahead and chokes the life out of it.

[Peacocky]

Seriously, how could TAKP be classic when Luclin shitty model is in there?.

Classic mean old school EQ from Verant which is up to the relase of Velious!.

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[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would actually be ok with a one time naked transfer of a 20-30 level character. Nothing over that. That maintains the hard work others put in leveling from scratch on the server while also encouraging a population boost so they actually have people to play with. t.

This is pretty typical of Red opinion. The last thing the want is a character that might be able to kill them transferring over. I bit if an entire raid guild transferred over a bunch of current red would quit.

It's about the joy of Griefing -- that is basically the only reason you would play there at this point.

[Mead]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty typical of Red opinion. The last thing the want is a character that might be able to kill them transferring over. I bit if an entire raid guild transferred over a bunch of current red would quit.

It's about the joy of Griefing -- that is basically the only reason you would play there at this point.

I play on blue so more familiar with how a blue player would want to not put any effort in and just transfer over. Just considerate towards our pals on red who have put in the work already. Glad we had this talk.

[shuklak]

But the red people all talk about how low effort and low competition the server is.

Which is it now? Let's set the record straight.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Tuurin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to be clear- RMT was extremely common and accepted in classic EQ. Heck I remember going on ebay and looking at scores of items, chars, and yes accounts that were for sale for USD back in the day. I always resisted the temptation to cash out on any chars/gear, but it was kinda fun to speculate.

To be clear I'm not an advocate of RMT and am very glad that P99 tries it's best to stop it, but I think we muddy the waters when we state that RMT is not a part of the classic experience, because it most definitely was.

I also tried and couldn't get into Agnarr- partly due to the Chrono/RMT dynamic but also just due to the overall lack of classic feel. When I started P99 I was floored by the nostalgia and general "old school" feel to what I was seeing. When I went to Agnarr though, it just felt like a different game than I remembered.

Boxing was classic but P99 does not endorse. I believe Nilbog went as far to say that boxing is what ruined EQ. Think about it as you, the player, are in a virtual reality world where you need to make allies to succeed and defeat certain content. Big loophole to just have a bunch of computers linked up and take down what you want at your own leisure.

Also, RMT happened on live no doubt, but it was eventually enforced, may have even be written in original EULA that you couldn't profit off the game.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is pretty typical of Red opinion. The last thing the want is a character that might be able to kill them transferring over. I bit if an entire raid guild transferred over a bunch of current red would quit.

It's about the joy of Griefing -- that is basically the only reason you would play there at this point.

TMO dominated blue, transferred over as a guild to red, leveled to 60, got destroyed and quickly quit the server.

Red has 0 competition most of the time because guilds break up after losing the battle at end game. It is a very easy server to join individually or in a small group if you want to join the top guild and raid end game.

It is nearly impossible to join up as a guild or group up enough players to take any meaningful content outside of the number 1 guild.

If the number 1 guild on blue transferred to Red the greedy high play time players would leave for Apex and the guild would dissolve after a month.

[nhdjoseywales]

Made some toons on Agnarr. So far folks have been helpful and pleasant. I feel a lot of people create their own bad drama situations.

[Tuurin]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing was classic but P99 does not endorse. I believe Nilbog went as far to say that boxing is what ruined EQ. Think about it as you, the player, are in a virtual reality world where you need to make allies to succeed and defeat certain content. Big loophole to just have a bunch of computers linked up and take down what you want at your own leisure.

Also, RMT happened on live no doubt, but it was eventually enforced, may have even be written in original EULA that you couldn't profit off the game.

I wasn't arguing that RMT is good/bad- in fact I said I think it's probably a good thing that P99 tries to be diligent about stopping it- same thing with boxing. I'm just saying that it's different to say that RMT is bad vs. saying RMT is not classic (same with boxing). Both RMT and boxing were very common in classic and weren't policed at all until well into our timeline. Classic doesn't automatically mean right or best. That's why people are often frustrated by the seemingly inconsistent message from the devs that at times say they are making a "museum" of EQ, warts and all and IDGAF if everyone likes it or nobody likes it, but then take out stuff they think is bad like AoE/swarming, RMT, boxing, leapfrogging, dps races, etc.

Of course the RMT that was happening in classic was significantly different than having a cash-shop button built into the UI like Live is currently.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Boxing was classic but P99 does not endorse. I believe Nilbog went as far to say that boxing is what ruined EQ. Think about it as you, the player, are in a virtual reality world where you need to make allies to succeed and defeat certain content. Big loophole to just have a bunch of computers linked up and take down what you want at your own leisure.

Also, RMT happened on live no doubt, but it was eventually enforced, may have even be written in original EULA that you couldn't profit off the game.

personally I think RMT should be allowed if not for legal reasons. That way this could be more like a hobby rather than a disease.

Without RMT its like we're playing with collectable Lionel trains, that have no value. And spending 100% of our free time and ignoring our family for said worthless toy trains.

But thats just my opinion.