How OP is ench?

[stormlord]

Here's what inspired me to ask:
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...p-play.244446/

I enjoyed playing the ench in OOM missions on live and I also played a chanter to ~71. I boxed off/on. One thing I noticed is how hard it can be, esp. to charm. They SEEM powerful, but it's much trickier in practice.

How common has it been on p1999 for players to complain about overpowered enchanters?

[Rivera]

No one complains about Enchanters. They are very OP though. Best class in game when played well.

[Izmael]

Enchanter on P99 has a high power ceiling, they can be very powerful but require a lot of involvement in order to achieve that power.

The downside to enchanters are

- you're nothing special, everyone has an ench main or alt
- raiding on an ench is dreadfully tedious
- you can only farm that many flawless diamonds or ruby crowns before you're sick of this game

[Gozuk]

Why would anybody complain about an enchanter? Everybody either wants haste of some sort, mind buffs, or to group with you.

[Canelek]

Enchanters are a blast, but definitely require attention due to the instability of the one thing that makes the class so powerful to begin with. Maxed or close to maxed charisma helps a ton, but even then you need to be paying attention lest you wind up a soft splatter of red and hair on the wall.

[sereal]

Bards piss me off.

[Faiding]

Originally Posted by sereal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards piss me off.

This. My god this.

Nothing like 4 useless songs eating up spell slot space so I can't rune/bedlam.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. My god this.

Nothing like 4 useless songs eating up spell slot space so I can't rune/bedlam.

Start casting Bedlam, click off song, get buffed with Bedlam. Repeat for Rune. It's 1 extra click when you need to rebuff, a slight inconvenience at worst.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. My god this.

Nothing like 4 useless songs eating up spell slot space so I can't rune/bedlam.

Smart bards don't twist worthless songs. If a group is rolling multiple classes with powerful buffs I generally ask the most buffed person (usually the tank) how many free slots they've got. If it's 4 I don't twist more than 3 so there's always room for a heal over time. Between slows, snares, debuffs, cc, and charm - there's a lot of other useful stuff a bard can sing that doesn't eat up a buff slot. I mean seriously, you can always substitute instant mana pulses in lieu of a redundant haste song with marginal stat increases.

On the flip side, smart players click off buffs they don't need. Do you NEED that stat buff? How much value is it really adding? In those situations, click off the shit you don't need.

[TheOutdoorNerd]

It's probably the hardest class to play well, so it makes sense that it's the most powerful. It's so much work to play one at that level, though. I like my necro because I get most of that power with about 1/4 of the work, plus being able to FD and go AFK. When you go AFK as a chanter, there's 100% chance charm will break and eat you within a second of taking your eyes off the screen. And the 255 CHA just means the pet will laugh while it's eating you.