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Old 02-05-2018, 08:09 PM
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Ahh ok. That explains it. I was hoping to get a better understanding of it, how come it aint being explained in the media then?

They half mention it, but how it's getting ingested isn't explained. I'd think if it's being taken accidentally and causing these deaths the overlords would do something to stop it seeing it's a pharma drug.

In the local media they might mention it, but everything I have read makes it sound like these people are taking it purposefully.
because that would make it a harm reduction message. the mainstream media isn't interested in any implication like that.

you get the facts by going through several articles these days, not just 1.

The Prince articles were good because we had so many character witnesses and people in his life that came forward about his habit and tendency. So when the police revealed that Vicodin pills tested positive for fentanyl and were counterfeit, we knew Prince died accidentally like many others. He died in his elevator because he was trying to get help as his CNS collapsed. Even if he had naxolone the dose of fent in these fakes will kill you before you even realize whats happening. its an instant kill, no buzz or anything.

Likely what is needed is a new Congressional committee on Extremely Hazardous Substances. The committee's job would be to hold law enforcement and USPS/CBP accountable and distribute funds to programs for controlling Extremely Hazardous Substances. The DEA Sched 1 and Sched 2 classifications are meaningful, but this fentanyl and designer drug age calls for special data collection, interception, and tactics. None of which the DEA has the capability to do despite naming fentanyl as its #1 priority nationwide.

The media is just way behind the curve. The other month I was reading a dogshit article about how fentanyl is coming from Mexico and Canada, ignoring the credit card non-Darkweb non-fancy method of just ordering it directly from China which is the #1 method according to Congress.

Yeah Mexico and Canadian border do see a good amount of fent trafficking, but its mostly finished product such as fake pills. The raw kilos are a bigger problem. And raw kilos don't need to be transported through Mexican or Canadian cartels at the moment.

Some shit will be changing. John Kerry was working on it before Trump took office.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:01 AM
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because that would make it a harm reduction message. the mainstream media isn't interested in any implication like that.

you get the facts by going through several articles these days, not just 1.

The Prince articles were good because we had so many character witnesses and people in his life that came forward about his habit and tendency. So when the police revealed that Vicodin pills tested positive for fentanyl and were counterfeit, we knew Prince died accidentally like many others. He died in his elevator because he was trying to get help as his CNS collapsed. Even if he had naxolone the dose of fent in these fakes will kill you before you even realize whats happening. its an instant kill, no buzz or anything.

Likely what is needed is a new Congressional committee on Extremely Hazardous Substances. The committee's job would be to hold law enforcement and USPS/CBP accountable and distribute funds to programs for controlling Extremely Hazardous Substances. The DEA Sched 1 and Sched 2 classifications are meaningful, but this fentanyl and designer drug age calls for special data collection, interception, and tactics. None of which the DEA has the capability to do despite naming fentanyl as its #1 priority nationwide.

The media is just way behind the curve. The other month I was reading a dogshit article about how fentanyl is coming from Mexico and Canada, ignoring the credit card non-Darkweb non-fancy method of just ordering it directly from China which is the #1 method according to Congress.

Yeah Mexico and Canadian border do see a good amount of fent trafficking, but its mostly finished product such as fake pills. The raw kilos are a bigger problem. And raw kilos don't need to be transported through Mexican or Canadian cartels at the moment.

Some shit will be changing. John Kerry was working on it before Trump took office.
Yeah I always try to cross reference what I read by going to multiple sources but just never ran across any of this stuff about fentanyl.

When Prince died that really fucked me up. My mom would play his albums non-stop in the 80s so when he died it seemed like a part of my childhood died with him. Can't say that is a bad thing tbh.

Anyway, I appreciate all the knowledge you dropped on this topic. I didn't know Prince had Vicodin tablets that tested positive for fentanyl, that's crazy!

You'd think Prince would have doctors that provided him with prescription scripts for real Vicodin or hell, even better! Why would Prince be gobbling Vicodins? SMH.
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:54 AM
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You'd think Prince would have doctors that provided him with prescription scripts for real Vicodin or hell, even better! Why would Prince be gobbling Vicodins? SMH.
He did. But he started his opioid use illegally in the 80's for stage fright. He had the worst stage fright anyone in the biz had ever seen. Was big on dilaudid back then I think he mostly stayed away from heroin and street drugs.

His recent run had him in rehab and detoxed. He was in "treatment" just before he died. This involves cutting off legal prescriptions. You can't prescribe opioids to an addict lawfully.

They found a stash of stuff and with fentanyl as the cause of death without having a fentanyl prescription, we know he exited rehab and scored some Vicodin trying to balance out what he thought was dope sickness. Goes that way a lot these days. Whether you start with a script or have access to prescribed opioids is irrelevant once you begin letting treatment steer you around helping lead you to bad decisions. There's always a panic followed by poorly obtained opioids through some shady dealer in an effort to get well.
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He did. But he started his opioid use illegally in the 80's for stage fright. He had the worst stage fright anyone in the biz had ever seen. Was big on dilaudid back then I think he mostly stayed away from heroin and street drugs.

His recent run had him in rehab and detoxed. He was in "treatment" just before he died. This involves cutting off legal prescriptions. You can't prescribe opioids to an addict lawfully.

They found a stash of stuff and with fentanyl as the cause of death without having a fentanyl prescription, we know he exited rehab and scored some Vicodin trying to balance out what he thought was dope sickness. Goes that way a lot these days. Whether you start with a script or have access to prescribed opioids is irrelevant once you begin letting treatment steer you around helping lead you to bad decisions. There's always a panic followed by poorly obtained opioids through some shady dealer in an effort to get well.
Ahhh ok that makes a lot of sense. Damn that's fucked up.

Speaking of Dilaudid, I had a kidney stone about a year ago and was given Dilaudid, respect to the power of that pain medication holy shit! That was the worst pain I have ever experienced, ever. I thought I was dying. It was the first one I ever had. That pain knocked me to the floor and had me praying to a god I never believed in rofl.

I drove myself to the hospital, then had to wait in a line at the "emergency" room, waiting for my turn to give my information. I couldn't even sit in the wheelchair they plopped me in while waiting, the pain had me crumpled on my knees on the floor.

This security guard came over and started to grab my arms and told me to get back in the chair while waiting, and I nearly exploded on him to get his fucking hands off me. It amazes me how protocol is to be followed at all times even when it's not possible to do so in places like that. I crawled back up into the wheel chair. lol.

I thought it was a burst appendix turns out it was a kidney stone! Stayed a night in the hospital and pissed the little jagged piece of glass-like stone out my pecker that morning. Glad I passed it within 24 hours or so.
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Ahhh ok that makes a lot of sense. Damn that's fucked up.

Speaking of Dilaudid, I had a kidney stone about a year ago and was given Dilaudid, respect to the power of that pain medication holy shit! That was the worst pain I have ever experienced, ever. I thought I was dying. It was the first one I ever had. That pain knocked me to the floor and had me praying to a god I never believed in rofl.

I drove myself to the hospital, then had to wait in a line at the "emergency" room, waiting for my turn to give my information. I couldn't even sit in the wheelchair they plopped me in while waiting, the pain had me crumpled on my knees on the floor.

This security guard came over and started to grab my arms and told me to get back in the chair while waiting, and I nearly exploded on him to get his fucking hands off me. It amazes me how protocol is to be followed at all times even when it's not possible to do so in places like that. I crawled back up into the wheel chair. lol.

I thought it was a burst appendix turns out it was a kidney stone! Stayed a night in the hospital and pissed the little jagged piece of glass-like stone out my pecker that morning. Glad I passed it within 24 hours or so.
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Old 02-06-2018, 03:25 PM
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lol. literally an artist's re-enactment.

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I was on dilaudid last year after surgery. I was unimpressed because I didn't really get high. I just got sleeepy and YES it took away pain, but I wanted to get fucked up too.

Still, it was pretty addictive.
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This security guard came over and started to grab my arms and told me to get back in the chair while waiting, and I nearly exploded on him to get his fucking hands off me. It amazes me how protocol is to be followed at all times even when it's not possible to do so in places like that. I crawled back up into the wheel chair. lol.

More annoying is that if you decide to leave you can't.

I developed a lifequest from an experience like that. I just want to be able to say I was admitted to a hospital and then checked myself out without seeing a doctor. Its going to involve a lot of anabolic steroid use and training, but eventually I'll be able to walk in and out of a US hospital and knock out 5 tryhards blocking the door.

There was a guy trying to stand up during a cocaine overdose. His heart was in terrible shape and he kept signalling it. They just treated him like shit and kept telling him to be seated despite the fact his heart needed to stand up. After that, the lifequest was on. I'll take an arrest warrant risk to prove a point that you CAN walk into a hospital and decide on your own that you don't need treatment and leave.
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Old 02-06-2018, 06:16 PM
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oh i should mention its only city hospitals.

go out to the suburbs or a smaller hospital and you can do whatever you want. stand up, sit down, AND leave if you want. they dont care. the concentration camp shit is reserved for major city hospitals. .unlawful detention is unamerican.
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