oh noes, spok banned!~

[saucer]

There is no choice but to accept the consequences you whiny bitch, get that through your head. You have no recourse.

This thread is great though, keep up the crying Jesse Rooney.

[jarooneh]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny you mention that, there was a great ethical debate over journalism involving that program, since media is supposed to be "indifferent" and merely report happenings and fact... "To catch a predator" actually removed journalism from information gathering and moved it into vigilantism which was to be exploited for ratings.

Because of this reason and "intent" being the factor very few convictions were upheld and usually the only indictments came from previous sex offenders which were NOT supposed to use the internet at all, so they ended up violating their parole and being sent back to prison.

But I will agree that "intent" is a gray area which can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. Would intent be merely speaking of the action? Or would it be in the process of performing? If Spok was merely talking about RMT then by the staff they decided this was "intent" but in my view and probably Spok's, intent would be linking to Paypal or dropping moneygram addresses, because at that point it would be "in process" but the crime in question hasn't yet been committed (because the trade would had to have taken place: post facto)

In my opinion things should only be prosecuted or punished based on post-facto and not the idle words and thoughts of the derranged

THIS

[jarooneh]

Originally Posted by saucer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is no choice but to accept the consequences you whiny bitch, get that through your head. You have no recourse.

This thread is great though, keep up the crying Jesse Rooney.

If you are going to try and be revealing about my personal life, get it right dumbshit.

Its Jesse James Rooney

Wow, you were researching me? This place is fkn creepy...

[saucer]

Originally Posted by jarooneh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are going to try and be revealing about my personal life, get it right dumbshit.

Its Jesse James Rooney

Wow, you were researching me? This place is fkn creepy...

Not quite, your name is posted on the huge screenshot in the middle of this thread incriminating you for attempting to sell your account for money.

[Azazel]

Jarooneh reminds me of the pedos in To Catch a Predator".

Uthgaard: have a seat, <motions to chair> What are you doing here at 2am?

Jarooneh: I just wanted to hang out, maybe trade an account for ingame pp!

Uthgaard: Then why did you send me a picture of your penis?

[jarooneh]

Originally Posted by saucer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not quite, your name is posted on the huge screenshot in the middle of this thread incriminating you for attempting to sell your account for money.

Ahh yeah, I never really looked at that screenshot. Guess it does say my name.

Why does it interest you?

[Zadrian]

Originally Posted by Abacab "The REAL truth" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny you mention that, there was a great ethical debate over journalism involving that program, since media is supposed to be "indifferent" and merely report happenings and fact... "To catch a predator" actually removed journalism from information gathering and moved it into vigilantism which was to be exploited for ratings.

Because of this reason and "intent" being the factor very few convictions were upheld and usually the only indictments came from previous sex offenders which were NOT supposed to use the internet at all, so they ended up violating their parole and being sent back to prison.

But I will agree that "intent" is a gray area which can be interpreted in a multitude of ways. Would intent be merely speaking of the action? Or would it be in the process of performing? If Spok was merely talking about RMT then by the staff they decided this was "intent" but in my view and probably Spok's, intent would be linking to Paypal or dropping moneygram addresses, because at that point it would be "in process" but the crime in question hasn't yet been committed (because the trade would had to have taken place: post facto)

In my opinion things should only be prosecuted or punished based on post-facto and not the idle words and thoughts of the derranged

I mean there are a lot of generalizations and metaphors in this thread, so I will just continue the trend.

First off, assuming that all this catch a predator crap wasn't staged, you can't tell me that the pedos weren't going to do anything when they were already in a house that they shouldn't be in in the first place.

When the first thing that was mention was a RMT, then that was his step into the house. I think he could have handled it more properly. Keep it private and explain that it was never his actual intent to sell for real cash.

Yet, he came on here and tried to flame Uthgaard. This is a highly defensive maneuver, usually enacted by those with high guilt. There were other, better choices than this childish tirade.

If it weren't for that, I would almost agree with you.

[EkireiTheNecro]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is some good shit. I've been working on nothing but petitions for the last 22 hours trying to keep up with the ungodly amount of workload that Kunark has blessed us with. Very sorry if your abandonment issues have caused you to feel ignored. For a goodbye to everyone but me, you seem to have left everyone else out.

The people who choose to be dicks, treat us like shit, or break the rules can be made examples of. I go farther out of my way to help the people who are polite and patient than and paid mmo staffer would.

For the hundreds of people who cheer me on and thank me privately every day, and let me know how much the server means to them, there are less than a handful per night who throw a tantrum in public and warn of the impending doom of the server (it's been doomed for over a year now, can't you see the signs?).

You're not the first, you're not the last. Best of luck with the trains, we've easily dealt with worse than that from better than you.

I remember when you banned my main for "training" in crushbone.

I was a level 22 Rogue scouting for crush and aggroed ran to zone....I myself died in the train.

I sent several tells apologizing to the individual who died to my train. His response?

"LOL...you banned. enjoy"

5 minutes later I'm disconnected and banned. I remember I logged into an alt account and explained everything to you. Apparently, you have no record of me sending tells of apology to the person who died in the train.

Pretty sketchy.

[EkireiTheNecro]

Seriously....do you even realize how many people RMT for gear on this sever?

I grouped with a Troll SK in Unrest last night....he was wearing several cloth pieces.

I saw him today in EC, wearing 100k of Kunark gear. Several pieces of Blood Ember, an Ebon Mace, Atra Shield etc.

[EkireiTheNecro]

Originally Posted by EkireiTheNecro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I remember when you banned my main for "training" in crushbone.

I was a level 22 Rogue scouting for crush and aggroed ran to zone....I myself died in the train.

I sent several tells apologizing to the individual who died to my train. His response?

"LOL...you banned. enjoy"

5 minutes later I'm disconnected and banned. I remember I logged into an alt account and explained everything to you. Apparently, you have no record of me sending tells of apology to the person who died in the train.

Pretty sketchy.

Oh yeah...the guy who died in the train had a 50 shaman PLing him.