Miscellaneous: Mage Epic pets are currently not classic on P99 (too overpowered)

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you're going to fix this on mage pets, you should probably fix their aggro first considering theres a bug post out there thats 5+ years old. Mage pet aggro is completely unclassic. They should basically be able to tank in groups of 6 as a tank replacement and hold aggro, but they don't.

Here you go:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...ght=mage+aggro

Well, on this parse the mob fought for like 2 minutes then agroed on the mage when he got too close.

[wwoneo]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, on this parse the mob fought for like 2 minutes then agroed on the mage when he got too close.

Proximity of another player shouldn't affect the pets ability to keep aggro. A pet should be able to hold aggro even if the mage, or someone in his party, is standing next to the mob that the pet is fighting. Read the forum post I linked.

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by wwoneo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Proximity of another player shouldn't affect the pets ability to keep aggro. A pet should be able to hold aggro even if the mage, or someone in his party, is standing next to the mob that the pet is fighting. Read the forum post I linked.

I will take a look, but what you are saying should happen didn't happen in this parse? Or am i misunderstanding you. Epic pet here generated a ton of threat, but panther agroed mage when he got too close (never attacked the panther or casted a spell on it).

[Rygar]

So I got around to taking a closer look at this data since someone asked but stun / proc frequency on the pet. Even though the stuns were resisted per the OP, they are actually logged in the data as 'Lekn begins to cast a spell.'. The procs are also logged as 'Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.'

Here are the extracts of that (left on first engage and last hit for reference):

[Sat Dec 01 07:48:38 2001] Lekn hits mist panther for 50 points of damage.

[Sat Dec 01 07:48:40 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:48:42 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:48:56 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:08 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:10 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:17 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:21 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:23 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:24 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:31 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:35 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:48 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:50 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:49:53 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:01 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:02 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:04 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:04 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:15 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:29 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:45 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:49 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:49 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:50:50 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Dec 01 07:51:05 2001] Mist panther is slashed by shards of elemental power.
[Sat Dec 01 07:51:11 2001] Lekn begins to cast a spell.


[Sat Dec 01 07:51:29 2001] Lekn tries to hit mist panther, but misses!

So the frequency is pretty curious, here is the timing in seconds from first engage:

0 seconds (first engage)

2 seconds (stun)
4 seconds (proc)
18 seconds (proc)
30 seconds (stun)
32 seconds (proc)
39 seconds (proc)
43 seconds (proc)
45 seconds (proc)
46 seconds (stun)
53 seconds (proc)
57 seconds (proc)
70 seconds (proc)
72 seconds (proc)
75 seconds (proc)
83 seconds (proc)
84 seconds (stun)
86 seconds (proc)
86 seconds (proc)
97 seconds (stun)
111 seconds (stun)
127 seconds (proc)
131 seconds (proc)
131 seconds (proc)
132 seconds (stun)
147 seconds (proc)
153 seconds (stun)

171 seconds (last logged hit)

Can't find a good 'smoking gun' on how these should work, it would appear random as there are back-to-back procs in the data, and some very long periods between stun or proc casts.

Timing between stun casts (in seconds):
28, 16, 38, 13, 14, 21, 21

Timing between procs (in seconds):
14, 14, 7, 4, 2, 8, 4, 13, 2, 3, 8, 3, 0, 41, 4, 0, 16

Longest time between stuns = 38 seconds
Shortest time between stuns = 13 seconds

Longest time between procs = 41 seconds
Shortest time between procs = 0 seconds

Longest period between either stun or proc = 16 seconds

Total stuns = 8
Total procs = 18
Total stuns + procs = 26
Total parse time = 171 seconds
Average stun cast = 21.375 seconds
Average proc rate = 9.5 seconds
Average stun + proc rate = 6.577 seconds

Sooo.... not sure what to make of all that. There are casts of stuns happening very quickly after procs and vice versa, so not sure they are related. Best I can tell the recast time on stun was maybe 14 seconds, with a dice roll ever 7 seconds or so to determine if another cast occurs? Doesn't fit perfectly, but close (there are rounding errors in the log time stamps obviously).

Curious if anyone had the Lucy data on the stun, odd recast times. Also curious if the EQMac log data was taken before or after the Luclin 'pet re-tuning'. When was the data of that server's last patch in the timeline? If after July of 2002, it seems like the logs of pet casts may be suspect (but could still be best data we have to go off of, exception being this epic pet parse in era).