do u snitch?

[Mr.Specter]

If you want to have a dick measuring contest, I suppose we can do that. I probably pay more in taxes than you earn in a year though, maybe two. Given CA's tax structure I might even pay more in state tax alone depending on your definition of upper middle class and locale. That probably isn't a direction you want to take things though.

I refuse to own property in HOA-run neighborhoods. My primary residence is part of a diverse, upper class neighborhood with home values ranging from the low to mid 7 figures, maybe one or two slightly more. It's a lot nicer than some places while not as nice as others in proximity. We don't have an HOA, and I don't need to pay anyone $30 or $300 remind me to keep my yard maintained. There are city ordinances that govern garbage can placement, street parking, and some other minor things.

What else do I have to worry about? That my neighbor who pays $20k a month on his mortgage is going to embrace his inner redneck and turn his lawn into a junkyard? Get real.

I also don't have to worry about fraud, embezzlement, corruption, or any kind of power tripping because I own my property and I can do with it as I see fit as long as it falls within the law, which I have no problem with.

A few years back I lived in a neighborhood that would probably fit your description of middle class. Again, no HOA. The people were friendly and kept to themselves. Kids ran around the neighborhood and left their toys in the yard. I had no problem with it because that doesn't affect me; it isn't my business. The HOA nazis would have been out in force though. Lol... just thinking about you guys and the stick up your ass for telling people to what to do. I laugh and I cringe.