known child-murderer attacks videographer on own property

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I am extremely against police abusing their power; however, it isn't always the cop's fault. When I was in the military I got loaned out to the MPs for a couple months while I recovered from a training accident. I was not an MP by MOS and wasn't really into it. I went into the experience how I'm sure most of you would. I had the mentality that I wasn't out there to screw anyone over and I simply wanted to do my job so I could go home and recover/rehab and get back to what my actual MOS was.

Anyway, about a week in I was riding with another MP getting trained on some traffic stop crap and we stop this lady for talking on her cell phone which on base was illegal without a hands-free device. She was really displeased that we stopped her despite the fact that we decided to just give her a verbal warning. An hour or so later we get a call over the radio to report in with our superior - apparently that lady called up and said that the guy I was with let her off with a warning in exchange for her phone number and was crying sexual harassment. None of what she claimed took place (I was there the whole time) but because he was cool and let her off with a warning instead of ticketing her, he had no way to disprove it.

Another incident just a couple days later. We're parked off to the side of the road writing up paper work on a domestic dispute we had just come from - someone decides to call in to the dispatch center that we're on the side of the road with our lights off "taking a nap." This whole "there is a cop sleeping" call happened so many times when I was there and while I'm sure it did happen - 95% of it was BS because sleeping on the job there was virtually impossible (constant radio checks, calls, etc).

Another time we responded to a domestic dispute where there was clearly physical violence because there was a bunch of broken furniture. The the dude was drunk and decided that he wanted to fight his way out of the situation, to which we promptly responded. One thing lead to another and we did admittedly knock over an end-table getting the guy under control. We included it in our report and everything. Like 4 days later the couple is filing a complaint claiming that we were responsible for all their broken furniture.

The whole point I'm trying to get at is - even the coolest, most laid back individuals, can very quickly get fed up with the bullshit they have to deal with because they're cops. I went out of my way to hook people up. 99% of the tickets I wrote were fix-it tickets (no fine, just have to prove they made the repair on or prior to the court date). Even drunk drivers, who I really dislike; we could ticket them at 0.05 instead of 0.08 since it was a military base, but as long as they were under like 0.10 or so I generally just had them park their car and call a friend.

TL;DR - A lot of the blame for asshole cops can be found in the fact that John Q. Public treats cops like shit.

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Just to clarify - I wasn't defending this guy. The cop in this video is clearly out of line. I was just saying that in general, a lot of cops that would normally be cool seem like dicks because they've dealt with bullshit like the stuff I mentioned for years on end and are jaded because of it.

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Originally Posted by Ruinous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Filming cops for no reason

It's perfectly legal to film police.

Originally Posted by Ruinous

proceeding to LIE about being on his own property

Doesn't matter whether it's his property. Even if it isn't his property, that doesn't mean he didn't have permission to be there. The officer never asked that.

Originally Posted by Ruinous

Why would you say you don't live at the property you are on?

By law, only a property owner or resident can make a trespassing complaint. No matter what way you try cut it, the officer had no right to approach him.

Originally Posted by Ruinous

And although I confess I haven't cared enough to look on the net for any pictures of the camera man after the supposed "beating" I'd say it sounds pretty much like he's trying to sound dramatic for effect

Try getting violently tackled and repeatedly kicked in the nose and mouth.

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[Ruinous]

Obviously legal to film police, but it doesn't mean that the camera man wasn't trying to start something. He had no other reason to lie. I'm not condoning the cops beating the piss out of him, but to claim he was some innocent bystander that got jumped for no reason is not truthful.

If some dude was standing outside your house at 2AM and told the cops he didn't live there, would you want them to drive off because you (the owner) didn't know he was outside trespassing yet?

[taurine]

Originally Posted by Ruinous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obviously legal to film police, but it doesn't mean that the camera man wasn't trying to start something. He had no other reason to lie. I'm not condoning the cops beating the piss out of him, but to claim he was some innocent bystander that got jumped for no reason is not truthful.

If some dude was standing outside your house at 2AM and told the cops he didn't live there, would you want them to drive off because you (the owner) didn't know he was outside trespassing yet?

What a glutton for punishment you are.


btw this stinks of red herring. It doesnt matter 'what if', what matters is what happened.

[Ruinous]

Oh and btw, there's a difference between criminal and civil trespassing. They had every right to approach him.

[Ruinous]

Originally Posted by taurine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What a glutton for punishment you are.


btw this stinks of red herring. It doesnt matter 'what if', what matters is what happened.

Sort of like "what if" the condom didn't break when your father impregnated your mother with that bastard seed? And "what if" the coat hanger abortion had succeeded rather than leaving a mentally crippled plague upon society? You're right, I suppose it only matters that it did happen.

[taurine]

For criminal trespassing to be in effect, there must be a viable method to block entry into a property. This can include locks, conspicuous signs, fencing or verbal communication to the person before the act.
The best defense against criminal trespassing is to prove that there was no visual barrier to entry of the property.

You love this dont you?

[taurine]

Originally Posted by Ruinous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sort of like "what if" the condom didn't break when your father impregnated your mother with that bastard seed? And "what if" the coat hanger abortion had succeeded rather than leaving a mentally crippled plague upon society? You're right, I suppose it only matters that it did happen.

delving into the ad hominem so early? /sigh

[Ruinous]

Originally Posted by taurine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

delving into the ad hominem so early? /sigh

Keeping things on an even keel for you, pal. There's no need to belittle your validity when you have none to begin with.

See: one-line troll attempts and numerous meme's.