Bin Laden's dead

[Holdar]

I don't believe it yet, I want screen shots!!

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If our troops aren't pulled back home immediately, you're doing the same fucking thing.

LOL -- right. Because we had ~150,000 troops in Afghanistan and Iraq to ensure Osama's death (in Pakistan). Now that mission's accomplished, guess we might as well pack up and leave.

We're in the process of assuming control and ensuring the stability of a region stockpiled with the most valuable, dwindling resource on Earth. Turning Osama into a bloody, lifeless corpse was bonus points, not game over.

And enough with the guilt trip over collateral f*cking damage. US forces are responsible for the deaths of significantly more combatants than civilians in both Iraq and Afghanistan. If the US wanted to murder civilians, they'd all be dead.

[Splooie]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans... thinking justice is done by killing another human being. That's why this stupid country we call America will always be at war.

I think you probably just see a bunch of people happy about something and have to, by default, go the other way with it. The interwebs is full of these "if you're for it, I'm against it" people today.

[Taryth]

Obviously the new hip thing to do is act extremely compassionate, philanthropic, and to be a humanist! Oh, the ROMANCE!!!
Grow some balls, this isn't an ideal world.

If you're so upset about it, what would you have done? Put him in a some sort of jail (Guantanamo most likely, or a less public affair) where he'd either be tortured, or isolated for the entirety of his remaining life. I'm quite certain I'd rather be dead than in a live Osama's position.


Punishment is never fair, just, or humane. But it is necessary. The only thing you can really speak out against in the context of punishment, would be torture. Just kill the sap quickly and be done with it. And that's about as anti-corporal punishment as I get.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Ashimar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Humans... thinking justice is done by killing another human being. That's why this stupid country we call America will always be at war.

Might I invite you to be the first in line to make justice with Al Qaeda without killing them.

You: Where's Al Qaeda?
Me: They're over there - *points*. See that man cutting that other guys head off? The one doing the cutting is a member of Al Qaeda. See the other ones around him with assault rifles? Them too.
You: Oh boy! Nows my chance to make peace without shedding blood.
Me: Good luck.

[Rhambuk]

back on topic.

I have never been a very patriotic person, nor do I consider myself to be one now. Thinking back to that day I am pretty disappointed with the way I reacted when I first heard the news and over the course of 10 years I have strongly been against the war.

Turning on the news last night when I arrived at work and listening to President Obama's speech I felt good, not because we had just killed a man who had wronged us but that everyone who had lost someone or something in the attack may feel some relief after 10 years.

Today I feel more American than I ever have in my life, I am still not a very patriotic person nor do I support the war. I feel a certain sense of connection with every person I meet, that we share a common emotion a sense of righteous accomplishment.

The last few years in this country have been difficult for many people. The economy going down with the price of everything going up a lot of people have been down in a slump, and though it doesn't seem great to rally around the death of a man but finally there is something to bring us together and make us remember what it means to be an American.

That's what I'm happy about,

After school special off, rant on

[casdegere]

I think killing what he stands for is much more potent then the man and that will never be done completely but it sure took a hit in Osama's death along with the message that the world is not big enough to evade justice forever.

[Swish]

From an onlooker's point of view (in England) I smell a dirty great rat. Bin Laden was rumoured to have kidney problems and had died in 2002, any video footage you see of him after that time contains poor lookalikes (hard to find someone with those facial features) or just tape recordings...as that was obviously easier to hoax.

The US government have clearly had his body in their possession for years and frozen it to preserve it. What better time than now to wheel it out (assuming they do) just as the elections are around the corner.

I'm not saying everyone's wrong, but just take a minute to look at the bigger picture. Afghanistan is getting old, perhaps the US wants to upscale involvement in Libya? Tasty tasty oil reserves, Gaddafi has been poopsocking too long apparently.

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by casdegere [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think killing what he stands for is much more potent then the man and that will never be done completely but it sure took a hit in Osama's death along with the message that the world is not big enough to evade justice forever.

Not enough fox holes and even if there were we can smoke em out.

[Splooie]

Clearly!