Bin Laden's dead

[moklianne]

About 6 or 8 months ago, I saw an interview where a top CIA official was asked directly when the last credible evidence was found concerning Bin Laden's whereabouts. He said flat out, its been almost 2 years since they had a location or any real leads. He said the trail just went cold.

Here's my speculation (take it for that):

I personally feel that he was killed a few of years ago, but in order to purpetrate continuing wars in the middle east, they didn't say a thing. Remember, George W was in office. Since then, we have increased our forces in Afganistan.

Now, as a campaign promise, Obama said he would start pulling troops out of the middle east. He let the lie go on just long enough to get the troop buildups where he wanted them. Now he wants to start slowly pulling them out over the next few years. What better way to start this off than to show the world that we are winning the war on terror. What's a better symbol of that than killing Osama?

Besides the fact that he can use this during the upcoming campaign. I don't understand why people say Obama or George W is responsible for finding and killing him. I wonder if people actually realize how government works...the joint cheifs come in and say, "hey, we think we found osama bin laden, this is the plan we recommend." or "hey we need these resources, actions to find osama, do you approve or disapprove?"

Its the people on the ground, and those going up the military ranks that make the real difference.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by moklianne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I personally feel that he was killed a few of years ago, but in order to purpetrate continuing wars in the middle east, they didn't say a thing.

He let the lie go on just long enough to get the troop buildups where he wanted them.

No, not even close. It's common sense that they want a muslim boogey man hiding in the closet so they can constantly hype national security threats and start more wars. The ONLY reason they would admit he was dead is to stage a new fake terror attack and blame it's occurrence on retaliation for killing Bin Laden. It will probably be a mushroom cloud or biological attack in a big city like Chicago.

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha Jesus man -- are you seriously that anti-Semitic? You really think they've got a massive conspiracy for global domination running?

Wow, who would have seen that coming? The good old crying "anti-semite" tantrum. Sorry but that doesn't work anymore. Everyone knows Israel are a bunch murderers and rank #2 most hated country on earth in every poll right behind North Korea.

I noticed you tried to pretend like Israel's long history of staging false flag terror attacks against the US doesn't exist. It's the exact same thing every time they do it, blow up some Americans or Brits with bombs then try to blame it on Arabs in order to get us to fight their wars for them. Keep pretending like the following events never happened:

“[The Israeli Mossad is] ruthless and cunning, with the capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian-Arab act.” -Report issued by the U.S. Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS); September 2001

Lavon Affair - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.

King David Hotel bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

July 22, 1946 Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers, and blamed the atrocity on Arabs. When later caught, they said the British had a list of their Arab spies and were going to turn them over to the Palestinians. The goal of the False Flag was to pit the British against the Palestinians.

USS Liberty incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Six Israeli fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. F-4 phantoms were enroute when President Johnson stopped the rescue. Israel’s plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

Some survivors, in addition to some U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials involved in the incident continue to dispute the official findings, saying the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was not a mistake,[6] and it remains "the only maritime incident in U.S. history where [U.S.] military forces were killed that was never investigated by the [U.S.] Congress."[7]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In the case of Wehrmacht, it goes like this: The Jews were responsible for 9/11.

Actually it goes like this. Israel has a long precedent of staging terror attacks, killing US citizens, and trying to blame it on Arabs in an attempt to try and get us to fight their wars. Keep pretending like the above incidents don't exist.

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, not even close. It's common sense that they want a muslim boogey man hiding in the closet so they can constantly hype national security threats and start more wars. The ONLY reason they would admit he was dead is to stage a new fake terror attack and blame it's occurrence on retaliation for killing Bin Laden. It will probably be a mushroom cloud or biological attack in a big city like Chicago.



Wow, who would have seen that coming? The good old crying "anti-semite" tantrum. Sorry but that doesn't work anymore. Everyone knows Israel are a bunch murderers and rank #2 most hated country on earth in every poll right behind North Korea.

I noticed you tried to pretend like Israel's long history of staging false flag terror attacks against the US doesn't exist. It's the exact same thing every time they do it, blow up some Americans or Brits with bombs then try to blame it on Arabs in order to get us to fight their wars for them. Keep pretending like the following events never happened:

“[The Israeli Mossad is] ruthless and cunning, with the capability to target U.S. forces and make it look like a Palestinian-Arab act.” -Report issued by the U.S. Army School of Advanced Military Studies (SAMS); September 2001

Lavon Affair - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.

King David Hotel bombing - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_David_Hotel_bombing

July 22, 1946 Jewish terrorists blew up a hotel, and killed 91 British soldiers, and blamed the atrocity on Arabs. When later caught, they said the British had a list of their Arab spies and were going to turn them over to the Palestinians. The goal of the False Flag was to pit the British against the Palestinians.

USS Liberty incident - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

Six Israeli fighters, three torpedo boats and two assault helicopters attacked the USS Liberty. There were 24 dead and 177 maimed. F-4 phantoms were enroute when President Johnson stopped the rescue. Israel’s plan was to blame Egypt, and have the US retaliate against Egypt.

Some survivors, in addition to some U.S. diplomats and intelligence officials involved in the incident continue to dispute the official findings, saying the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty was not a mistake,[6] and it remains "the only maritime incident in U.S. history where [U.S.] military forces were killed that was never investigated by the [U.S.] Congress."[7]



Actually it goes like this. Israel has a long precedent of staging terror attacks, killing US citizens, and trying to blame it on Arabs in an attempt to try and get us to fight their wars. Keep pretending like the above incidents don't exist.

Lulz dude. You're a racist and an anti-semite. Your "long precedent" consists of 3 events, all of which are interpreted by you (or wherever you copy-pasted this from). One occurred before the state of Israel even existed. One was officially ruled an accident, with NSA recordings showing that Israeli pilots believed they hit an Egyptian vessel. As you stated, it involved three torpedo boats and two helicopters. It was not subtle. It was a completely transparent operation. There was not and could not be any question over who committed the attack. The lone legitimate and documented example of your "precedent" occurred 55 years ago, failed, and resulted in the forced resignation of their Minister of Defense. It was an extraordinary event, not a precedent. In 1763, the British intentionally provided Native Americans with small pox infested blankets. The US does not monitor all bedding imported from the UK for virus strains.

The irony is that you're arguing all these points for a team that doesn't support you. I'm caucasian. I do not have a single relative that could be described as anything other than a white American or white European. It's not white vs. black vs. Jew vs. Mexican. It's you vs everyone. And you've lost. A black man is the most powerful man in the world. Israel is a nuclear power with better defense capabilities and offensive weaponry than anyone outside of the US, UK, and Russia. You can't text message without using technology created in Israel, turn on the TV without seeing a black or Jewish actor, or drive a car without abiding by laws set forth by Jewish, black, and hispanic politicians. You're a slave to the minorities you pit yourself against. And that's what's so great about this country. A hateful hillbilly stuck idealizing a Nazi regime that got its ass handed to it is forced to live as an ant under the heel of everyone and everything he hates.

Sorry, breh. You lose.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One was officially ruled an accident, with NSA recordings showing that Israeli pilots believed they hit an Egyptian vessel.

You're obviously a little kid and know nothing about history and probably never even heard of this event before I told you about it. Everyone who investigated the incident plus all the survivors said it was not an accident:

- In a signed affidavit released at a Capitol Hill news conference, retired Capt. Ward Boston said Johnson and McNamara told those heading the Navy's inquiry to "conclude that the attack was a case of 'mistaken identity' despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary."

- It was “one of the classic all-American cover-ups,” said retired Admiral Thomas Moorer, a former Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman who spent a year investigating the attack as part of an independent panel he formed with other former military officials. The panel also included a former US ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James Akins."

- “Why would our government put Israel’s interests ahead of our own?” Moorer asked from his wheelchair at the news conference. He was chief of naval operations at the time of the attack.

BBC even made a documentary on it with boatloads of specialists confirming it wasn't an accident: http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...3041501647311#

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your "long precedent" consists of 3 events

Yes, even one false flag terrorist attack against the US would get any other country blown off the face of the earth long ago so it obviously makes you wonder how they are allowed to get away with it over and over and over.

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The irony is that you're arguing all these points for a team that doesn't support you.

And almost 1/4th of colonists living in America supported Britain during the war for independence. You're one of the useless retards.

[QUOTE=Turtles;283710]
It's not white vs. black vs. Jew vs. Mexican.

I'm not some Charles Manson, Helter Skelter weirdo. The only people I have a problem with are the ones who destroy the country I live in or constantly launch false flag terrorist attacks against it (ie: Israel). Even your little group of nancy boys that call themselves "progressives" are publishing the truth of how things work now:

The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy
http://www.amazon.com/Israel-Lobby-U.../dp/0374177724

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A black man is the most powerful man in the world.

Wrong. He reads off a teleprompter and that's about it. No real power except ceremonial.

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not some Charles Manson, Helter Skelter weirdo.

Wrong. He reads off a teleprompter and that's about it. No real power except ceremonial.

Whatever helps you sleep at night, bro.

Obama is the single most powerful man in the world. Fact.

And you're a racist that goes through the minimal step of dubbing minorities "enemies of the state" in order to lambast them. You're a dime a dozen -- the only saving grace is that most of your kind can't figure out a computer.

Oh, and consider this: what makes America your country? The fact that you were born here? So were plenty of blacks, Jews, and hispanics. "Your" country elected -- by popular vote -- a black man to its highest office. "Your" country is a staunch supporter of Israel, and is responsible for giving Israel prohibitive nuclear power. "Your" country currently has 120 Black, Asian, Jewish, Hispanic, or Native American congressmen. "Your" country isn't "your" country at all. "Your" country disagrees with the vast majority of your views, and has voted to that effect. You are a small and impotent minority. That must be very frustrating.

[purist]

Turtles posts another lengthy, emotional response to wehrmacht. This kid must be obese as hell.

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by purist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Turtles posts another lengthy, emotional response to wehrmacht. This kid must be obese as hell.

Lol, another swing and a miss. Remember what we talked about last time? For effective trolling, you need to not take shots in the dark. So far you've tried rich, poor, history-major, Cornell-grad, Harvard-reject, and fat -- and you still haven't gotten a hit. Are you going to keep trying? I can save you time: deaf, crippled, short, ugly, virgin, homo. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm sure there are a couple more out there, as well. Feel free to throw 'em out.

More importantly: how much of an inferiority complex must you have? I mention Ivy League and you spend 15 pages riding my dick trying to find a RL insult that will piss me off. Sorry, man. You're shooting blanks. It's cool, though. It seems you spend a lot of time on these forums. And I mean a LOT. Have you missed a day? This clearly means a lot to you. I'm sorry for invading your one sphere of relevance. I'm sorry if I've pointed out that your every post is a take on the same formula. Mostly, I'm sorry that this forum provides you enough joy to re-appear daily.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Obama is the single most powerful man in the world. Fact.

Not even close to objective fact. Everything in your statement also assumes he has free reign and isn't a puppet ruler.

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, and consider this: what makes America your country? The fact that you were born here? So were plenty of blacks, Jews, and hispanics.

I never said that America is a "whites only country". Way to go at making shit up though. Since you want to go down that path, it actually was designed that way in reality. I don't expect you to actually know anything about history since you're like a 20 year old child that thinks they're smart, but pre-1965 immigration policy prohibited most people from moving here that weren't from western Europe. It was effectively a mostly white only immigration policy.

In 1965, the bill referred to as "The Death of America" bill was passed that allowed open immigration from all countries which will cause European derived people from being a majority in the country by the year 2050. I'm sure you're just giddy in excitement about how great and multicultural that is, but you have to ask yourself, why would the people who created a country pass a law in order to make themselves a minority in their own land? You don't see countries like Japan doing things like that, they do the exact opposite. Japan passes laws to prevent other ethnic groups from moving in and keep their country over 99% homogeneous. Since you're a fucking moron liberal, you will obviously completely ignore how every other country on earth operates and not even think about calling Japan "racist".

Also, take a wild guess what group was at the forefront of lobbying to pass the 1965 immigration law referred to as "The Death of America" bill?

"This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences."

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/ABERNET3.PDF

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And you're a racist that goes through the minimal step of dubbing minorities "enemies of the state" in order to lambast them.

It's 2011, your 1980's tactic of strolling out of a San Francisco gay bar and crying racism at everyone doesn't work anymore to win an argument addressing real topics. People just laugh at you and call you a stupid liberal now.

[Turtles]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never said that America is a "whites only country". Way to go at making shit up though. Since you want to go down that path, it actually was designed that way in reality. I don't expect you to actually know anything about history since you're like a 20 year old child that thinks they're smart, but pre-1965 immigration policy prohibited most people from moving here that weren't from western Europe. It was effectively a mostly white only immigration policy.

In 1965, the bill referred to as "The Death of America" bill was passed that allowed open immigration from all countries which will cause European derived people from being a majority in the country by the year 2050. I'm sure you're just giddy in excitement about how great and multicultural that is, but you have to ask yourself, why would the people who created a country pass a law in order to make themselves a minority in their own land? You don't see countries like Japan doing things like that, they do the exact opposite. Japan passes laws to prevent other ethnic groups from moving in and keep their country over 99% homogeneous. Since you're a fucking moron liberal, you will obviously completely ignore how every other country on earth operates and not even think about calling Japan "racist".

Also, take a wild guess what group was at the forefront of lobbying to pass the 1965 immigration law referred to as "The Death of America" bill?

"This paper discusses Jewish involvement in shaping United States immigration policy. In addition to a periodic interest in fostering the immigration of co-religionists as a result of anti-Semitic movements, Jews have an interest in opposing the establishment of ethnically and culturally homogeneous societies in which they reside as minorities. Jews have been at the forefront in supporting movements aimed at altering the ethnic status quo in the United States in favor of immigration of non-European peoples. These activities have involved leadership in Congress, organizing and funding anti-restrictionist groups composed of Jews and gentiles, and originating intellectual movements opposed to evolutionary and biological perspectives in the social sciences."

http://www.csulb.edu/~kmacd/ABERNET3.PDF




It's 2011, your 1980's tactic of strolling out of a San Francisco gay bar and crying racism at everyone doesn't work anymore to win an argument addressing real topics. People just laugh at you and call you a stupid liberal now.

Dude, you're not "addressing real topics". You're talking about a multi-generational, worldwide Jewish conspiracy to dominate the world. In another thread, you were talking about the genetic inferiority of blacks. You mention a bill opening immigration being referred to as "The Death of America" bill, as if that's common shorthand for it. Everything you say is worthless hate-mongering and racial paranoia. You think every other race is eating off the white man's plate when in reality, it's been the other way around for centuries. You think you're superior because you're white. Superior to what? Not our black president. Not the Jews that apparently dominate your world. Not the Asians that outperform whites in all the tests you like to cite to prove black inferiority. Being white doesn't mean dick, and all your protestations are aimed at a general populace that would rather vote for a black, a Jew, a hispanic, or an Asian than anyone with your belief system. And don't blame the minorities on that one. The USA is 75% caucasian. We just don't agree with you.

[Slathar]

Originally Posted by Turtles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, and consider this: what makes America your country? The fact that you were born here? So were plenty of blacks, Jews, and hispanics. "Your" country elected -- by popular vote -- a black man to its highest office. "Your" country is a staunch supporter of Israel, and is responsible for giving Israel prohibitive nuclear power. "Your" country currently has 120 Black, Asian, Jewish, Hispanic, or Native American congressmen.

i like wut u did there.
fatty.