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Old 02-05-2019, 10:53 AM
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Sadly all the top guilds (guilds that have shown they wanted to compete) were all in a discord channel setting up new rules and regulations to follow and a meeting to discuss how to make sure this server didnt go back to how toxic it was with Tempest around and it was all shot to shit.

Oh well, maybe theyll soon realize how poorly thought out this was and change it back to being the last good EQ server there is.
Someone seems salty that their zerg monopoly on the server is getting broken up. Boo hoo. Your little invite only club wont change it man, you’re reaching here.
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I tried my hand at rotating with the casuals.
It was at this point I decided to no longer be kind to the casuals as they have extreme short term memory. They did this to themselves, unfortunately.

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No one in A/A cares that you aren't getting pixels. In fact after the last suspension wave the attitude is to stop letting the casual guilds get anything even remotely of value.
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Old 02-05-2019, 10:58 AM
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One of these things already exists.
Yes but people are scared of pvp.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:12 AM
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Why is red in the blue forums again? The server stands for itself, junk status.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:18 AM
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I don't play red, but everything these idiots claim to want is on red already. But they really don't want FFA competition. They want to make the end game so insufferable through fraps and petitions that nobody sane would put up with it so they can stand in the DKP lines for their free pixels.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:28 AM
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I don't play red, but everything these idiots claim to want is on red already. But they really don't want FFA competition. They want to make the end game so insufferable through fraps and petitions that nobody sane would put up with it so they can stand in the DKP lines for their free pixels.
You're not wrong.
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P99ers do a lot of things well. Handling surprise adds / splitting up focus is not one of them. Mostly because the classes that do that the best (SK/Paladins) are generally trashed and considered useless, and because pulls are considered failures if a dragons doesn't appear at the zone line solo.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:50 AM
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According to Braknar the reason for rotation is that guilds are setting up on top of eachother at the entrance.... Guilds wouldn't have to setup on top of each other at entrance if they hadn't disabled binds in ToV. It used to be one raid force at west exit, one at entrance. There are only 3 viable raid forces contesting ToV right now. Two at entrance, one at west exit seems like a good solution.

Even if a rotation wasn't the worst thing that could happen to P99, the way he went about it by including every guild on the server is goofy.

Here were the three raid forces that could actually compete in ToV as of this announcement:

AG
Aftermath
Core + random ally like PS or BG

Including imaginary raid forces like Kittens and AEGIS in a rotation is ridiculous...

Braknar may also have single handedly resurrected Tempest. That guild was dead at the time of his announcement and didn't actually compete in ToV last week lol.

My solution is to get rid of leashing on this server, restore bind points in ToV and resume business as usual. More people were participating in the raid scene than ever. The server has never been more popular. I don't believe this rotation will help this server at all.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:51 AM
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Go play Fortnite, FFA, no poopsocking, loot everywhere.
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:51 AM
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Why's everyone hating on fraps. Lliterally the best entertaiment of this server comes from people behaving badly while not knowing they are bind sight+frapsed.

Also would you rather people just cheat and... just not have anything consequences?
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Old 02-05-2019, 11:56 AM
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Also would you rather people just cheat and... just not have anything consequences?
I think most people on the server would prefer everyone to act like sane adults playing a 20-year old elf simulator and not have to cheat at all. It's almost like these shenanigans led us to this very point in time.
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Old 02-05-2019, 12:22 PM
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There are several things I don't like about this rotation.

1. This rotation will proliferate the issue that is trying to be cured in TOV elsewhere. Top guilds not having to focus on TOV respawns is going to further congest other spawns and no doubt trickle down to some even lesser targets that have been off of the TOV participants radar which has given smaller / growing guilds opportunity for raid targets weekly. To fix this, without ditching the rotation entirely, the guild who's turn it is for TOV should be locked into TOV targets only for that week.

2. No proving grounds. You just put your name on a list and that's enough to prove you can kill Vyemm? That's nuts. There should be some sort of entry for those entities that have not shown through competitive measure already that they can as a raiding entity in fact clear TOV. The only guilds on the rotation list should be guilds that have proven the ability to clear the zone already. Currently that would be AG, AM, Tempest (That have killed Vyemm as a raiding entity), forgive me if I missed anyone. If guild <Potato Hustlers> has not proven themselves capable and they would enter the rotation behind the last guild of proven raid entities in the rotation, they should be given 24 hours to kill Vyemm on the last guild in the roation's turn in to gain their seat in the rotation. If they pass the test they gain access to the rotation and give up the Vyemm spawn on their turn to the guild that provided their test Vyemm. If <Potato Hustlers> fails to kill Vyemm, the guild who's turn it was has rights to kill Vyemm after the 24 hours window of opportunity passes. <Potato Hustlers> gets moved to the bottom of the not proven rotation list. Only one new raiding entity would be added during each rotation round. This keeps the rotation smaller at first and will grow by only one raid force during each round of the rotation. Starting it out at a 2.5 month rotation without some of these guilds even setting foot in north , ever, seems weird. I am all for everyone getting to experience TOV, but why make a super shitty long rotation a two or three month cool down when it may not need to be?

So the list would be

Proven Rotation:

Aftermath
Azure Guard
Tempest

Not Proven Rotation:
Potato Hustlers
X1
X2
X3



I personally really enjoyed the thrill and challenge that competitive TOV raiding provided, but I understand the thought behind trying to be inclusive to the community as a whole, not just the 40-50 collective neck beards from the top 3 guilds who prefer the free for all FTE competition. That being said, I think this rotation, the way it has been set up, will actually cause more of a choke on content for lower tier guilds as higher tier guilds are going to have less distraction from TOV. I am not sure that some of these guilds auto entered to the rotation are actually capable of clearing TOV as they have shown little to no effort in testing their ability on these fronts. I wish them and everyone else the best as these changes are implemented and hope that I am wrong about the potential backfire it may cause.
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