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Old 08-15-2019, 09:37 AM
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Someone mentioned how iksar broodling could be abused in dps race; no different to now.

One would think with fte whoever aggroed broodling first got rights to kill. Instead it has a custom rule that it goes to whoever 'triggered' it. Right?

No reason such custom rules wouldn't apply in a pre-PNP server. The absence of the codified PNP didn't mean all GMs let their servers be Wild West. You were subject to whatever adhoc enforcement they wanted to apply.

Indeed, there have been complaints in the past that p1999 doesn't follow the classic PNP system. Essentially blue has always been in a pre-PNP state where enforcement is down to a GM's judgment and whim instead of a top down authority.

As such, I argue green will have the pre-PNP system and on all likelihood will always be without the Verrant official PNP.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:29 AM
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There goes your lack of reading comprehension and/or willful ignorance again. It's pathetic how you keep trying to erase history, even when it happened in the past 24 hours, right in front of your face.
Man, if this was RnF I'd say something about your mind being up inside one of your own body's cavities, only in a much less nice way. But since we're not ...

Just quote one then ... just one.

It's super easy to prove me wrong if you're actually correct, so just do it and quote one person saying "I buy what Zura has been selling" (and what he disrupted several other threads in order to try and sell to me).

You've put a HUGE amount of effort into this fight. You've written a massive number of "wall of text" posts, in multiple threads that people started about completely different topics. Surely after all that effort you can point to just one single person, one single bit of proof that all that effort wasn't a giant waste of your's and everyone else's time ... right?
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:35 AM
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In other news I award Loramin 1 month of rotations on blue.
Woot, I'm going to solo the heck out of ToV! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:43 AM
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Someone mentioned how iksar broodling could be abused in dps race; no different to now.

One would think with fte whoever aggroed broodling first got rights to kill. Instead it has a custom rule that it goes to whoever 'triggered' it. Right?

No reason such custom rules wouldn't apply in a pre-PNP server. The absence of the codified PNP didn't mean all GMs let their servers be Wild West. You were subject to whatever adhoc enforcement they wanted to apply.
Well there's evidence floating around that the spawn for tear drop worked differently in the early days of classic.

But the custom rule or unwritten law, so to speak, seems to apply elsewhere as well without any attempts from outside parties to ruleslawyer. The skeletal version of Sir Lucan. Thought destroyer. Xenovorash. Any and all the giants spawned during the ring war. So basically, no touchy unless directly involved with those who began the process/killed its "placeholder" for lack of a better term. The rules have been customized over time out of necessity and blue server has still maintained its classic feel; no reason why green server wouldn't. Similar to how earthquakes aren't at all classic, but very easily would have been back in 1999 under the right conditions / if the devs had thought of it.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:00 PM
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Similar to how earthquakes aren't at all classic, but very easily would have been back in 1999 under the right conditions / if the devs had thought of it.
You misunderstand: earthquakes are 100% classic!

What's not classic is them being a precise amount (0-2? 1-3?) every month (like they were for a little while here) or else totally forgotten about (like they were for 9 years), or partly forgotten about (how they have been recently).

But the reason you probably don't remember them on live is because they weren't called "earthquakes", they were called "server patches", and they came along with an annoying period of time where you couldn't play the game and you had to hang out in those idiotic Verant chat rooms. P99 not taking the server down prior to "earthquakes" is unclassic ... but you won't hear many complaints about it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:52 PM
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Aye, the visible shaking and flavor text is what I was referring to, how those interruptions back then could have been clevery worded/portrayed to tie in with the lore, instead of just warning players that the servers were coming down. But maybe they informed players differently on Firiona Vie.
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Old 08-15-2019, 01:19 PM
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Aye, the visible shaking and flavor text is what I was referring to, how those interruptions back then could have been clevery worded/portrayed to tie in with the lore, instead of just warning players that the servers were coming down. But maybe they informed players differently on Firiona Vie.
I didn't play on FV a ton, but I did have a toon there and I'm pretty sure they got the same "Server coming down for maintenance in 15 minutes, please camp somewhere safe" messages as everyone else. Visible "earthquakes" would definitely have been a lot more fun though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-15-2019, 02:09 PM
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I didn't play on FV a ton, but I did have a toon there and I'm pretty sure they got the same "Server coming down for maintenance in 15 minutes, please camp somewhere safe" messages as everyone else. Visible "earthquakes" would definitely have been a lot more fun though [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Yeah, they did. FV got the same server down messages as any other server. The players just bitched about it in Elvish or Dark Elvish.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:45 PM
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Even if you're right about claasic 99 eq having no pnp Zura, 95% of the eq player base doesnt remember it that way.
It's not "if I am right". It is a FACT. Documented. History. The way you people keep trying to falsify history needs to stop.

You are completely wrong about "95% of the playerbase didn't remember it that way". It's people who didn't play during that era trying to be naysayers. Almost nobody posting here actually played actively in 1999.

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It's super easy to prove me wrong if you're actually correct, so just do it and quote one person
You've already been proven wrong. You just ignore everything. Since you are incapable of reading and processing anything that shows you are wrong, but now make a claim that will you finally shut up if I directly quote something again, here you go:

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I also remember always having a HT up to outburst the occasional intrepid person showing up to nail a named as it would pop.
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