Convenience Features on Blue?

[Thomacles]

Then get rid of item linking. Everyone types it all out manually....Bring back corpse looting when you drag someone. Let people drop cash on the ground......

The list goes on.

Did it ever occur to you QoL features could draw more people in?

This server could so easily turn into Red, with about 35 people all saying, "Yah!! No QoL stuff! We win!!".......And guilds consist of 7 people and the remaining population can't even raid HoT. Certain QoL features don't affect gameplay. But to intentionally make anything harder then it needs to be simply serves no purpose.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Thomacles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did it ever occur to you QoL features could draw more people in?

I'm not trying to get into this fight on one side or the other, but I think something (important) may not have occurred to you.

The people behind this server do not care about drawing more people in. And they've flat out said as much: Nilbog has a quote to the effect that he plans to make this place classic even if that means driving every last player off.

[Thomacles]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not trying to get into this fight on one side or the other, but I think something (important) may not have occurred to you.

The people behind this server do not care about drawing more people in. And they've flat out said as much: Nilbog has a quote to the effect that he plans to make this place classic even if that means driving every last player off.

That train departed long ago. Classic was abandoned for the reasons I stated earlier. Loot on drag, no item links, etc etc. But, I understand your viewpoint.

The real question becomes, since they already deviated from classic, where and how is the line drawn? NO ONe can dispute the fact item linking is NOT classic by any stretch of the imagination. Take that away, and watch the riots start.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Thomacles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That train departed long ago. Classic was abandoned for the reasons I stated earlier. Loot on drag, no item links, etc etc. But, I understand your viewpoint.

Such a typically ignorant response ... I want to get mad, but it's better to educate than get mad at ignorance [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

P99 has never "abandoned" classic-ness . When the wiki works, you can find an entire page of unclassic stuff (the "Non-Classic Compendium") ... but along with that list, you'll also find an explanation for why each thing is.

There are literally just two things that are pure developer fiat: the direction of the boats in OOT (the original directions made no sense, world-wise), and the Siren's Grotto camp/glitch bug (it was used far more on live than recharging ever was, but the devs unclassically "fix" it here). For those two things, you can rail as much as you want against for R&N for being hypocrites.

For everything else though ... if it's unclassic, it's unclassic because it has to be. Either it's impossible to recreate classic because no one knows for sure what some aspect of classic was like, so the staff do their best (eg. drop rates of stuff, exactly where every mob spawns and how many per zone, etc.) ... or it's impossible because of a technical limitation like the Titanium client.

But again, except for boats and Siren's Grotto, nothing here is done unclassically by choice.

[Halfcell]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The people behind this server do not care about drawing more people in. And they've flat out said as much: Nilbog has a quote to the effect that he plans to make this place classic even if that means driving every last player off.

This.

I often wish there was more of a financial incentive for the P99 devs to be more concerned about population. We would get some QoL changes, we would get Luclin eventually, and Veksar, and the Cazic Thule revamp, and blue could be more than just a retread of classic EQ, it could be the best EQ ever could have been.

The truth though is that fewer players would make their lives easier, and P99 is more a labor of love, an homage, a work of art intended to recreate a time and a place faithfully, regardless of how appealing it is to people than it is an attempt at making a popular EMU server.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Halfcell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This.

I often wish there was more of a financial incentive for the P99 devs to be more concerned about population. We would get some QoL changes, we would get Luclin eventually, and Veksar, and the Cazic Thule revamp, and blue could be more than just a retread of classic EQ, it could be the best EQ ever could have been.

Strip out all of the RPG elements, add in MTX for ease of leveling. Essentially what P99 is not, just use the titanium client with no mods. Don't forget the mercenaries. Also add in twitch streaming functionality and see if one of the popular young artists will do up some commercials on TV to promote it.

(no troll, illness with modern gaming..why the hell am I here still.)

[Halfcell]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Strip out all of the RPG elements, add in MTX for ease of leveling. Essentially what P99 is not, just use the titanium client with no mods. Don't forget the mercenaries. Also add in twitch streaming functionality and see if one of the popular young artists will do up some commercials on TV to promote it.

(no troll, illness with modern gaming..why the hell am I here still.)

I feel like my post was pretty measured, fair, and completely unrelated to this idiotic list of straw-man crap. Custom UI's, pet windows, tab targeting, item links, and extra hot bars are examples of QoL changes that in no way made the game worse. They made it less classic, for sure though, which was my point.

I don't think you actually understood my post, to be honest. Next time reread something a couple of times before you respond. Clearly you need a few tries.