How long on blue until...

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Credge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists aren't going to work. The same guilds farming the items will have every member in their guild that is online at the time put on the list and rotate it out until every member has what they need. If they try to put a limit on guilds and what not then the people just won't be in guilds.

There is no work around to this tbh.

I'm sure you've thought this out way more than Rogean and Nilbog have over the last ten years...

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[Credge]

Originally Posted by El-Hefe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm sure you've thought this out way more than Rogean and Nilbog have over the last ten years...

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Could be. Or, it could be a way to dissuade casual popsocks because you can't actually stop a group of determined idiots attempting to break a 20 year old pixel simulator. You can't stop poopsocks from breaking a newly released closed beta. That's what people do.

[AbstractVision]

Originally Posted by Credge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists aren't going to work. The same guilds farming the items will have every member in their guild that is online at the time put on the list and rotate it out until every member has what they need. If they try to put a limit on guilds and what not then the people just won't be in guilds.

There is no work around to this tbh.

The only way what you're saying would work is if you can disconnect and then reconnect from a different IP while on the list to swap players when one goes to sleep AND one guild gets enough people on the list first to effectively lock it forever AND
those characters on the list never leave the zone and always have a non afk person playing them 24/7.

Is it possible? Yes. Realistic? No.

[Sonark]

Originally Posted by AbstractVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way what you're saying would work is if you can disconnect and then reconnect from a different IP while on the list to swap players when one goes to sleep AND one guild gets enough people on the list first to effectively lock it forever AND
those characters on the list never leave the zone and always have a non afk person playing them 24/7.

Is it possible? Yes. Realistic? No.

It's cute, how much faith you have.

[Credge]

Originally Posted by AbstractVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way what you're saying would work is if you can disconnect and then reconnect from a different IP while on the list to swap players when one goes to sleep AND one guild gets enough people on the list first to effectively lock it forever AND
those characters on the list never leave the zone and always have a non afk person playing them 24/7.

Is it possible? Yes. Realistic? No.

Why are you talking about IP's? I'm talking about guilds owning an entire farm and not allowing anybody to get it. They didn't stop it from happening, they just increased the number of people required for it to happen.

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Originally Posted by AbstractVision [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way what you're saying would work is if you can disconnect and then reconnect from a different IP while on the list to swap players when one goes to sleep AND one guild gets enough people on the list first to effectively lock it forever AND
those characters on the list never leave the zone and always have a non afk person playing them 24/7.

Is it possible? Yes. Realistic? No.

Realistic for P99 level 9000+ neckbeards? Yes.

[Jadian]

Originally Posted by Credge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lists aren't going to work. The same guilds farming the items will have every member in their guild that is online at the time put on the list and rotate it out until every member has what they need. If they try to put a limit on guilds and what not then the people just won't be in guilds.

There is no work around to this tbh.

You just created an imaginary situation using framework that doesn't even exist in the already proposed stipulations of the list, and then decided that imaginary impossible situation has no resolution.

So grats you I guess?

You're basically ready to start a "skeptic" youtube channel and start making that $$

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Locket of Escape is the single most, and only important item on green.

Green's entire raiding future belongs in the hands of the fastest zoning bard to get himself and about maybe 3 people to chief in droga to lock that camp down for his guild. After that point the only thing that happens is potentially that guild also locks down trakanon, or not. But that wont matter as kunark doesn't last long enough to matter to raid DPS or manapool as only maybe 10 PD's will die during kunark.

Anyone who thinks green is about manastones, or rushing to 50 or guises is kidding themselves. Planning and implementing the perfect plan of blowing every possible consumable attainable to reach and lock down chief in droga is all that matters.

I am under the impression this is the exact type of item that will be a candidate for the list system. I doubt a single guild will have control of 100% of the lockets.

[Fammaden]

Mmmk, well we are kinda talking about vanilla here since that's all we will have next month, and not everyone cares that much about how well people can raid sock on a server that will get effectively wiped after Velious, but good luck on the lockets I guess?

[Dman2701]

Just make all items from Green no Drop when those toons get moved to Blue...