Velious99UI - Green Server UI - Feedback/Bugs/Discussion

[MrZev]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The original velious UI utilized a lot of marble assets. The way it is, is by design. The aim was accuracy to the Velious UI.

But its not consistent is the problem. Its like, Main Chat having its title aligned to the left side while the others are centered or that is the only window thats green. It doesnt make sense. What makes it worse is that there was an option to adjust it, but now its removed. I dont remember velious looking or feeling like this at all, but then again it was 19 years ago and i knew nothing about UI design then.

I guess what bothers me is that i cant have it look like classic anymore. I like the classic look. This really takes away from the experience for me.

[Wenai]

Originally Posted by MrZev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But its not consistent is the problem. Its like, Main Chat having its title aligned to the left side while the others are centered or that is the only window thats green. It doesnt make sense. What makes it worse is that there was an option to adjust it, but now its removed. I dont remember velious looking or feeling like this at all, but then again it was 19 years ago and i knew nothing about UI design then.

I guess what bothers me is that i cant have it look like classic anymore. I like the classic look. This really takes away from the experience for me.

Main chat is not aligned left? It is centered.

While there are some Titanium client restrictions in place to get it 100% accurate. It is fairly accurate as-is.

Sorry the experience is ruined for you. But hey! No need for a refund right?

[MrZev]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Main chat is not aligned left? It is centered.

While there are some Titanium client restrictions in place to get it 100% accurate. It is fairly accurate as-is.

Sorry the experience is ruined for you. But hey! No need for a refund right?

I was making an analogy with the left aligned. I modified by post, but it didnt save and my changes got lost. The real issue with the UI was designed when everything was 800 X 600 resolution. When you look at screenshots with that resolution, it makes sense. You dont have much screen real estate, so making some windows transparent was VERY helpful. My resolution being 2560 X 1440 makes everything look scattered and inconsistent. Its made even worse by not being able to change Gamma in windowed mode. Once again, windowed mode wasnt even an option back in 2000. I would play in windowed mode, but every time i tab out, it switches it back to windowed mode.


Its VERY hard to see some things like the close buttons.
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I when i hovered over that button i finally saw it.

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Also no need to view negative criticism as a polar viewpoint to everything. Because it takes away from it doesn't mean its terrible and i wasted my time. You say its accurate, sure, but only if it was forced fullscreen 800X600. No need to be rude about my viewpoint though. If there is enough negative feedback on this change, they might change it. If it bothers a lot of the community and no one says anything, how would they know? Regardless of me being the majority or minority in this, being vocal about my opinion helps. Having done UIs for 10 years, i am VERY accustomed to this kind of thing and it bothers me more when no one says anything.

The problem they wanted to solve was prevent people from viewing UI elements that were not exposed back then like Mana. Their only option was to remove custom UIs. This is where I disagree with the choice. I feel they sacrifice too much by going with this option. Make the Green UI the default option, and if someone loads another UI , that contains it, oh well. Knowing the exact number isn't really that useful. Back in 2000 i wrote an app in my TI 80 that would calculate my mana for me.

[Jibartik]

yeah its tough in general to see anyhthing through the transparent windows, but its either we make the x's white/grey so everyone has to look at the x's all over your screen, or you remember that the x is in the corner of every window that you can close.

I think subtle and knowledge is better because it looks closer to classic. This isnt a very "easy to use" game after all, so like, that's why I chose black.

At night I have been like this though "I cant see shit god dammit!" So I understand. We should set up some polls down the road about some changes that we may want to make to make it more usable but Id like for the community to decide if we pull the trigger on some of that because I think that everyone is right in that conversation. Id think its best for stuff like that to defer to the majority.

Its always a lose lose situation at this point.

Memorizing my spells for example as a human is like IMPOSSIBLE lol.. I have to look at the sky, so I can see the spell gem window outline.

Something that just simply would not be a problem, if we were able to toggle to a fullscreen marble UI.

We're painted into a corner folks lol

[Jibartik]

Serious question, has anyone ever had any luck, or experience with an application that will magnify another application window?

Like, I'm wondering what the game would be like, if I set it to 640x480 but then blew it up 200% and added a CRT filter to it(expand to see the effect):

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I think it'd be pretty awesome to be able to do that.

Is that even possible? It'd be even better if like, it would isolated to the titanium game window, so blowing up a 640 resolution and adding this affect, would feel no different than the current EQ window I have, except it would just look totally bitch'n!

[Jibartik]

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[wildstar]

anyone know if you how or if you can copy your ui from one character to another. really would just save some hassle for me

[MrZev]

Originally Posted by wildstar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

anyone know if you how or if you can copy your ui from one character to another. really would just save some hassle for me

Its kinda annoying but yes. When you make a character, in your install location, it creates a UI_CharName_P1999Green.ini file. Replace the contents with the contents from a characters UI you have set. Cant remember if you need to quit the game or just go to character select for it to take effect.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

eep wait, are you saying you can't kick it back into working order?

Set to not textured, camp out, (completely close out eq I notice without doing this it maintains some memory leaks or something that bla bla so yeah try that) then re-launch, I'm assuming that should fix the button to be working, but if it doesn't can you let me know?

Im not sure if someone else posted this already but I've figured out how the hotpad color button bug works, if you take an ability button, and put it onto a button you had a macro on with that color, it will match that color, until you do a full restart. So I am hoping that fixes this issue for you Baler!

Found a solution: Black Meditate Button
(This is the same solution for the spellbook icon on the spell bar being black )

Texture ON - So you see the spellbook and stone background
Tint - WHITE 240 240 240

re-log. Meditate button is there.

@Jibartik the default tint color is white.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Found a solution: Black Meditate Button
(This is the same solution for the spellbook icon on the spell bar being black )

Texture ON - So you see the spellbook and stone background
Tint - WHITE 240 240 240

re-log. Meditate button is there.

@Jibartik the default tint color is white.

Ok cool, this is helpful thanks baler!