Name a guild more notorious for PVP than Azrael

[coolget]

Originally Posted by Jeni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Honestly after Grobb / that EJ fight where they tried to surprise friends and got shit on at the port in. I think empire realized all the gear in the world wasn’t going to help them in PvP. I don’t think they tried to force a fight after that? They boxed a ton of characters at cazic and had bard / windstrikers after grobb but refused to engage. Old empire would have been hunting us down.

lol

is this what you actually believe?

an hour after we told everyone to log off for 2 weeks due to the christmas holiday, friends, prophets of slosh, and a few other guilds swell up to 30-40 members online, after months of single-digit player count, and beat 3 good players and 20 shitty/undergeared recruits at the "legendary" grobb fight

when the holidays ended, fear golems were taken back immediately, and you guys disappeared

i don't think the friends/tempest crew won a single mass pvp fight in velious other than that

you guys thumped your chests for months prior to velious release about how we would never kill any raid mobs with your interference, but gave up after your very first showing at our first yelinak, where we'd kill him on top of dozens of your corpses

you guys tried a few times at VP and got shit stomped

you guys tried a few more times at plane of fear when tempest formed and got shit stomped multiple times

it wasn't until the empire core got bored, woke the sleeper, disbanded the guild, and quit playing everquest that your crew got to experience velious raiding uncontested just like you always wanted to do

[Jeni]

Originally Posted by coolget [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol

is this what you actually believe?

an hour after we told everyone to log off for 2 weeks due to the christmas holiday, friends, prophets of slosh, and a few other guilds swell up to 30-40 members online, after months of single-digit player count, and beat 3 good players and 20 shitty/undergeared recruits at the "legendary" grobb fight

when the holidays ended, fear golems were taken back immediately, and you guys disappeared

i don't think the friends/tempest crew won a single mass pvp fight in velious other than that

you guys thumped your chests for months prior to velious release about how we would never kill any raid mobs with your interference, but gave up after your very first showing at our first yelinak, where we'd kill him on top of dozens of your corpses

you guys tried a few times at VP and got shit stomped

you guys tried a few more times at plane of fear when tempest formed and got shit stomped multiple times

it wasn't until the empire core got bored, woke the sleeper, disbanded the guild, and quit playing everquest that your crew got to experience velious raiding uncontested just like you always wanted to do

These were the only two fights were the numbers were even. Not much can be done out numbered 3 or 4 to 1. You had more then us at Grobb even in your off season. Multiple “good” players from Empire showed up to die in the swamp as well. The EJ fight I’m not sure what happened I think people were over confident and tried to engage like 25~ of us with 3 groups? Empire did reform with even more then us and while we were fighting CS loaded back in to even the numbers. That being said every one of the shitters brought ToV gear and Velious pixels vs kunark rags. There were good players in empire for sure but for the most part they were just dead weight idiots who were free kills for friends.

So if the question was best PvP guild I wouldn’t put Empire up there biggest Zerg / most pixels sure. Number of good players? Maybe 10-15 scary players?