Ogre Stun Resist Explained?

[TheDudeAbides]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy smokes dudes just play the game.

Resisting melee stun is significant. There are a lot of stun components from NPCS that are melee and not getting stunned by them is big. Interrupts are one thing, spinning for 3 seconds is horrible.

If an intelligence based caster could be an ogre with even 40 base intelligence it would be the hands down best caster race and everyone would roll it.

Ogre FSI is the best racial in the game

There will never be an item introduced on P99 that replicates frontal stun immunity

It was introduced before any of the expansions, so when they designed it, they probably didn't realize how valuable it would become during Kunark and particularly Velious. The more difficult the content, the more it's value increases.

Trying to ascertain it's value at lvl 24 during Classic is like trying to accurately predict the modern value of Apple Stock back in the early 80s at this point in the game.

People need to stop comparing apples to oranges. Stun locks you for 3 seconds and at the very minimum allows a mob to get basically a free round of attacks upon you. Add additional combat variables and it puts any other race besides Ogre at a measurable disadvantage (when soloing)

There are items in the game that replicate Troll Regen. They only become more powerful as expansions are released. Shamans get a nice health regen spell as well that stacks with these items. Yes, Troll and eventually Iksar regen will also stack, but the numbers only really give you an extra spell every 10 minutes or so. Nothing to scoff at, but it's not an ability that could potentially determine a close fight.

As an Ogre you're never going to hear the echo and have to watch your game screen spin around like a top when engaged in melee from the front. You're completely immune to the effect.

Ogres also have ridiculous stats that are all good for a Shaman. Low AGI being the only slight drawback, but you can buff that on yourself, so it's a wash. I don't believe any race for Shaman is a "bad" choice. It's just that any race other than an Ogre isn't the optimal choice.

[Baler]

Regrowth + Fungi + Racial Regen = all stack for 42 hp standing per tick or 48 hp sitting per tick.
vs
Regrowth + Fungi = 33 standing and 36 sitting

[Zeboim]

There is no such thing as too much health regen. There may be items that can add to it, but it is never a bad thing to have more.

Honestly, I think that the main consideration between Troll or Ogre is ultimately just aesthetic. The other factors are close enough.

[solidious77]

The dude has spoken. We all must abide.

[Siege]

Troll/Iksar regen doesn't just grant you extra mana via Cannibalize. It also allows you to go longer without healing yourself than a race without regen, making you a more efficient soloer.

I don't disagree that Ogre stun immunity is a great racial. I just think that racial regen has a larger impact on a shaman overall.

[Baler]

With torpor race doesn't matter.

[Siege]

I never add Torpor to the equation because of how difficult it is to obtain, being the most valuable spell scroll in the game. You really need to be in a guild that feeds it to you, and if you're in that position, you better sleep with a batphone next to your pillow because you owe the people in that guild a huge debt.

[Baler]

They're not really a shm if they don't have torpor

It's not hard to get torpor