Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[byzah]

Eye witness evidence counts as evidence in criminal trials - so here's some more.

I played an enchanter in Classic - Kunark & used charm extensively but mostly as a backup spell. It was fantastic in Unrest in the 20s as a CC spell to deal with mez breaks. Mez breaks were very common back then as few players knew how to assist...

(Lv12 Charm had a 2.0s cast time...later versions are slower, so harder to get off when you're getting pounded & of course mobs hit harder even with stuns).

I recall Inviz *did* break Charm (just as it causes permanent pets to suicide).

Charm was also useful situationally when close to a zone line [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We didn't know tricks like tashing the charm pet [though I tashed all mobs after mez] or giving the charm pet -MR items [assuming that even works on p1999 as it does on Live now].

I think the biggest difference is that today the ENTIRE TEAM works to support the charm strategy. Mages & Shamans are ready to malo. Tanks/rangers are ready to taunt (only). Necros will toss in a Screaming Terror...healers will heal you. You will actually be HP buffed.

All changes from "back in the day" where teamwork was much less effective.

Back then, I never received hp buffs from clerics (or thought to ask for them) until high levels and when I later switched mains to cleric, I recall watching an enchanter die in PoN as he was extensively using charm and I had no idea why he was being so reckless...

(I did feel sorry for him after rezzing him back in and even blew a pearl on a DI spell)

[Frug]

Originally Posted by byzah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eye witness evidence counts as evidence in criminal trials - so here's some more.

It's also shown to be way less reliable than most people give it credit for.

[byzah]

Originally Posted by kul69 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There has already been enough evidence provided to prove you're wrong and that there are core mechanics broken like MR rate, invis, etc.

Wrong about inviz, definitely possible. Wrong about classic viability of Charm - no. I was there. I used it. It worked*.

Note that's not the same thing as saying that the current strategy isn't cheesy or unbalancing and that no action should be taken in the interests of balance [at the expense of authenticity). I don't like it as a tactic either. I don't like teaming with enchanters and I'll never play one so long as this is a thing.

* Unlike Lull line, which really did suck (so badly that I didn't even buy the spells on my cleric all the way to the one they released around the GoD/OoW era which actually functioned)