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Old 01-02-2020, 03:47 PM
Hazek Hazek is offline
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- Make it so if you're #1 and you don't engage the mob within 30 seconds its removes you from the list. This prevents people from holding the mob hostage while expecting others to kill it for them.

- Remove afk checks (hear me out). I see no reason why you can't afk if you're not 1st on the list. The 1st person is expected to kill the mob, not people waiting. And if they're #1 and still afk then they miss the opportunity anyway without wasting anyone's time due to the first rule.

But at least you could do other things then while you wait instead of worrying about missing it and being stuck to to your computer for insane amounts of time because 4 other people are ahead of you. And the first rule prevents afk too because they have to actively kill the mob loot it.

And if you're worried about people botting it then just make the AFK check only for the #1 slot.

- Add a notification when you move up in position.

- Remove the range restriction for slot 2 and greater. Other people should be allowed to farm the dungeon (without leaving it) while they wait for their turn to camp the mob.

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Old 01-02-2020, 04:12 PM
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- Make it so if you're #1 and you don't engage the mob within 30 seconds its removes you from the list. This prevents people from holding the mob hostage while expecting others to kill it for them.

- Remove afk checks (hear me out). I see no reason why you can't afk if you're not 1st on the list. The 1st person is expected to kill the mob, not people waiting. And if they're #1 and still afk then they miss the opportunity anyway without wasting anyone's time due to the first rule.

But at least you could do other things then while you wait instead of worrying about missing it and being stuck to to your computer for insane amounts of time because 4 other people are ahead of you. And the first rule prevents afk too because they have to actively kill the mob loot it.

And if you're worried about people botting it then just make the AFK check only for the #1 slot.

Also a notification when you move up in position.

ty
Even better: Rather than remove the AFK check, make it every 3 minutes and only provide 30 seconds to clear it. I want to see these camps go from everyone-is-mostly-afk snooze-fests to absolute panic when the list order fluctuates wildly as people miss checks left and right.
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:14 PM
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List mobs should randomly death touch.
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Old 01-02-2020, 04:57 PM
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- Make it so if you're #1 and you don't engage the mob within 30 seconds its removes you from the list. This prevents people from holding the mob hostage while expecting others to kill it for them.

- Remove afk checks (hear me out). I see no reason why you can't afk if you're not 1st on the list. The 1st person is expected to kill the mob, not people waiting. And if they're #1 and still afk then they miss the opportunity anyway without wasting anyone's time due to the first rule.

But at least you could do other things then while you wait instead of worrying about missing it and being stuck to to your computer for insane amounts of time because 4 other people are ahead of you. And the first rule prevents afk too because they have to actively kill the mob loot it.

And if you're worried about people botting it then just make the AFK check only for the #1 slot.

- Add a notification when you move up in position.

- Remove the range restriction for slot 2 and greater. Other people should be allowed to farm the dungeon (without leaving it) while they wait for their turn to camp the mob.

ty
30 seconds is a bit too much. I agree that #1 should be forced to participate though, I think 30 minutes would be more fair and have been saying this for a while.

Removing AFK checks for the rest of the people on the list sounds like a good idea at first, but then you have to realize that the lists would start getting obscenely long. I would say keep the AFK checks at #1 for the same intervals that it is at currently, but for the rest of the people on the list change it to once an hour or something perhaps. You still run the risk of missing out if you get moved to #1 without knowing and then miss an AFK check so there is some incentive for the people in #2 and #3 to start paying closer attention.
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:05 PM
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List is not being changed, listed items are gone in May and 2 full months have passed with no changes, get over it cause you can make all the posts you want, the list isnt getting any changes with only 4 months til legacy items are removed.
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:08 PM
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Even better: Rather than remove the AFK check, make it every 3 minutes and only provide 30 seconds to clear it. I want to see these camps go from everyone-is-mostly-afk snooze-fests to absolute panic when the list order fluctuates wildly as people miss checks left and right.
5 minute nonstop gem competitions whoever has the highest score at the end of each gets the number one position
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:10 PM
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List is not being changed, listed items are gone in May and 2 full months have passed with no changes, get over it cause you can make all the posts you want, the list isnt getting any changes with only 4 months til legacy items are removed.
I hear you and i'm actually ok with how it is. Was just thinking of a couple improvements. Although I see some problems now with some of the suggestions, besides forcing the #1 slot to engage.
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:13 PM
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List is not being changed, listed items are gone in May and 2 full months have passed with no changes, get over it cause you can make all the posts you want, the list isnt getting any changes with only 4 months til legacy items are removed.
While I agree that it's unlikely to be changed now, this is still a project that has plans to continue beyond this set of servers. Maybe we won't see improvements to the system now, but it might make the next iteration better. So why not talk about what works, what doesn't, and what could be better?
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:14 PM
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5 minute nonstop gem competitions whoever has the highest score at the end of each gets the number one position
That would be a hilarious way to do lists. After an item drops, the entire list is reshuffle based upon the most recent gems highscore.
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Old 01-02-2020, 05:14 PM
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30 seconds is a bit too much. I agree that #1 should be forced to participate though, I think 30 minutes would be more fair and have been saying this for a while.

Removing AFK checks for the rest of the people on the list sounds like a good idea at first, but then you have to realize that the lists would start getting obscenely long. I would say keep the AFK checks at #1 for the same intervals that it is at currently, but for the rest of the people on the list change it to once an hour or something perhaps. You still run the risk of missing out if you get moved to #1 without knowing and then miss an AFK check so there is some incentive for the people in #2 and #3 to start paying closer attention.
Good points. But if its once per hour then you end up sitting there for a long time if you forgot when the last one was out of fear of missing it. I think a static duration like 15 minutes with a 5 minute buffer to click it would be good. Then you cant just straight up afk (for fear of a long list), but you still have time to do stuff if you're not the #1 slot who's required to camp it.

Either way I see that maybe its not worth changing it now, except for the first rule.
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