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Old 01-22-2020, 07:51 PM
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Notice how all your sources are part of the government or made up of multiple governments. Strange how those with power are finding evidence that they need even more power. My sources were from real scientists not beholden to the government.

Also, I still haven't seen any links to evidence from your side, only arrogance and ignorance. Any objective observer would hand the debate victory to our side based upon that alone.
Alex Epstein, the author of your Forbes article, is not a scientist. He runs a for-profit think tank relating to fossil fuels. You're skeptical of anything related to the government but willing to trust a single person whose livelihood is directly related to denying climate change.

Here's a direct response to his article: https://features.weather.com/course-...isinformation/

Here are actual scientists publishing in peer-reviewed journals (read: not Forbes magazine) on the issue:

https://science.sciencemag.org/content/307/5708/355

https://www.pnas.org/content/107/27/12107.abstract

https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/es501998e

https://journals.ametsoc.org/doi/ful...S-D-13-00091.1

https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1.../9/094025/meta

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1.../2/024024/meta

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...26/11/4/048002 (This last one is a synthesis on many of the different studies, all peer-reviewed, unlike Epstein's work.)

These studies demonstrate a range of 91-100% scientific consensus on anthropomorphic climate change. Most, however, are around 97%. A common refrain among climate change deniers is that this is a power grab. But this doesn't hold up: these scientists come from different countries and have many different sources of funding, as do the different government agencies from different countries, all of which overwhelmingly agree that humans are the primary driver of climate change. Besides, there's actually a huge financial incentive (see: Alex Epstein) to bring legitimate evidence to bear that climate change in fact is not real. If it was available, we would see it. Alas, unfortunately, the problem is very real.

I'll spare you the insult of "moron" that you issued to me, but either you need to get more informed on this topic or you should proceed with a bit more intellectual humility.
 


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