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Old 04-19-2020, 08:02 PM
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No man I still don't actually get it. Rephrase or something, I think my brain is fried today. How do you get first if the first already happened?

Ive never been on a raid in any online game so maybe there is terminology I don't get. I assumed it was the yellow text achievement thing
Let's say you're playing a game with a really strong character build. You do all the content and get awarded the title of finishing all content first. Then the staff say oh that build is too strong so they nerf it. Now your build can't do all that content. You'd of never been able to complete all that content with that build. Your title of finishing all content first is invalid.

The staff decided to change the finish line for that title. It wasn't a part of the pre-planned game design. The finish line getting moved forwards or backwards affects the significance of that title. In this case it's invalidating the achievement.

note: I'm speaking of a hypothetical staff not the p99 staff in this post

edit: I can understand how some may say 'Oh well it's already happened can't change history'. And people on my side of the topic will say it's changed the ease/difficult of that achievement enough to warrant that the legitimacy of it's completion in the past is invalid.
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Old 04-19-2020, 08:30 PM
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Gotcha. Actually, I think you've made me realize that the perception of achievements are a little different between folks. I was viewing them as a race to a first goal, not a content difficulty type achievement.

There's actually some real life examples I know of that are legit races like triathlons and ironmen races and OCR type events where in the next years the actual events are significantly harder, but you get the same awards. Now to be fair, in the next years awards, your in competition only with people from that year, but medals and trophies aren't taken away when it gets harder. Likewise, since a different green server will happen in the future, the goals will be different then, since they will probably can those wands right out of the gate.

I mean i'm not worried about it but if you were shooting for something coming out soon with the wands, I guess it makes sense to feel unfair about it.
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