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But look, to be clear none of this is in the Play Nice Policies. Camp Rules are not official server rules; they are just things GMs have said in the past. And I say this as the person who wrote the Camp Rules page (and put the giant warning in Red saying as much at the top). So ultimately, as with anything not explicitly spelled out on the Play Nice Policies, there is no way to know for certain how a GM will decide to rule on it. Literally Menden could decide Bob has to give up the crocodile once he gets his leggings, and Llandris could decide Bob can keep the camp until he feels like leaving. That's how the rules work here. But if you wanted to guess at what the staff would think, all you have to do is read what Derubael wrote and it seems clear to me (emphasis added): Quote:
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This has nothing to do with the list mechanic. The rule stated in OPs post is a general rule for all mobs that are camped for a specific item. The rule is made in good faith and is not enforceable seeing as no one would know if you looted the gatorscale leggings or not (unless you are grouped that that is usually unlikely).
I did the AC camped for a few days on and off last month. If there was someone there that wanted the camp for XP, I made a deal with them that they could take all the crocs they wanted as long as they killed them in a timely fashion. I even helped finish them off when getting to low HP. But when the AC spawned, he was mine. I probably spent a total of 40 hours on and off at that camp before getting 1 pair of leggings. I see it unlikely that people are holding down the camp in one sitting for multiple drops. | ||
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P.S. One last very important detail that often gets left out of these abstract rules discussions: none of this matters unless you communicate. You have to say "Hi Bob, I see you are camping the AC, and I'd like to camp him once you get your leggings. Could you please let me know once you do, so I can come take the camp from you?"
It's only if you then suspect that Bob has gotten two pairs of leggings and you then /petition that there's even a chance of Bob being forced to give up the camp. We don't even get to have the "WWGMD" (what would the GMs do?) conversation until that point. But at the same time, I honestly think that with 95+% of the players on this server, if you say "I really want some croc leggings, can I get some after you", they will just give you the camp and GMs will never get involved. Quote:
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hey there elf legally camping something
here’s a few forum novels on why you should give the camp to me **don’t forget to read my elf dissertation wiki, thankS! | ||
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I would guess that this “ruling” would be applied only to the extremely popular big ticket item camps like the AC. I don’t think it would be applied to your average loot drop even if it’s somewhat valuable (like the leggings). JBoots are one of the most desired items on the server so you’re just trying to prevent a guild or group of individuals from basically controlling that camp and using it to price gouge MQs etc.; you’re not really worried about that with your average piece of gear.
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Guys this has been hugely informative.. Thank you!
I now believe that if there's huge demand for this gator scale legging, which there is, the list is long, one guy capmned 30 hours, 1 guy 11 got 2, 1 guy 6 got 2, one guy ? got 3. If you get your item, and people are dying to get it behind you, you should give it up. Just cuz it's not lore, doesn't mean the rules don't apply about solo camping "the item you're looking for". I might bring that up next time I'm here and someone's been here forever. Because I felt bad for some guys I see who have clearly been trying to get camp forever. | ||
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That gatorscale leggings camp is rough, and you always end up with a bunch of unwanted sleeves. But have you tried camping the gatorscale tunic? It's so rare, I am not sure if it is ever gonna drop, but I will keep looting gatorscale leggings and sleeves until I get my tunic!
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Took me forever to get my legs on that camp. I find it unlikely someone is coming out with 3 legs tbh. Knowing how rare it is and how many people are generally on list, pretty dick move to continue on once you got it .. knowing it might be 8 hours of sleeves to see another leggings drop.... Who knows though.
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