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So a gentlemen's agreement wherein Bob gets to have his cake and eat it too. Considering he's holding A, B,C and potentially a list on A ? And if Mike disagrees or contests he's going to pay for it later ?
Seems like there is a lot of onus on Mike to sort out a situation that would be fixed by the camp holder being there. Example - if Mike shows up randomly within the 'reasonable amount of time' time frame, where no one is there and part of the camp is up - where does the burden lie here if any on Mike ? | ||
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As a new player this was some useful information. Very thorough! I'll try to wrap my head around it all lol. Regarding the "lists" while I was watching/ reading about p1999 green before I joined I learned about a list you can be put on to loot a item? Did that ever come to fruition and if so how do you get on it and who keeps up with it?
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With how busy green has been since I started, this seems backwards to me. The only context I think that this could makes sense in, is an outdoor zone (where 'a mob is a camp' and granted you maintain LOS of the multiple spawn points) - versus a person claiming several cash camps in a dungeon that aren't LOS. If you're on 3 camps in a dungeon and come back to one with someone there, shouldn't the onus be on you to contest and have to make the decision to leave your other claims - not the campless person who showed up to a camp devoid of a camper ? Edit - and even outdoors zones I am skeptical of this rule: One time I came up on a mob - looked around and saw no one, so I killed it and then sat down at the spawn. This is no exaggeration, mob was up and no presence anywhere I could see. The next spawn, someone comes up and tells me they had been camping it with a group (out of LOS). I argued and eventually a GM got called and ruled in their defense, stating they could pick the mob of their choice outdoors. So they continued to camp that mob and the others closer to where they were setup shop. | |||
Last edited by jerryR; 09-12-2020 at 08:41 AM..
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i feel that if the rules were too strict and you had to be within x feet of camps, people would lawyer others to no end. Step x+1 feet away? I have it on OBS, camp is mine now. Sow a buddy? camp is mine! Dodge a train? mine.
Also it just seems strange to lose a camp by moving away, especially if no one else is in a zone. Why would you need to save those mobs? For future players that may or may not even zone in by the time it respawns? If you save a mob and it doesn't make a difference, then what was the point? And what do we owe to possible future players, anyway? I don't think we owe them a fully popped zone, at any rate.
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I've never met a more entitled, unwavering arrogance than someone who has held down a couple high value targets for a few hours. I feel like your last paragraph exemplifies that 'screw everyone but me' attitude that causes more lawyer questing than anything else | |||
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I mean if you're talking about someone holding multiple camps and telling other would-be farmers or xpers to go soak their heads, then I agree with you. That is bad behavior and should be stopped immediately. But it just doesn't seem like a problem to take what would have otherwise gone to waste.
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I've just seen people take liberties with the 'reasonable' amount of time stuff - and when they get complacent from locking things down for awhile that amount of time seems to stretch out when they miss a PH by a couple mins.
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