Daybreak is Being Acquired

[elkay]

"You may not disassemble, reverse engineer, or modify any Daybreak Game(s) software in any way. You may not decrypt or modify any data transmitted between the game software and Daybreak’s game servers."

That's the part lawyers would suck up if paid money to do so, unfortunately. This was required in order to create the emulated servers because the network traffic in/out of the client needed to be researched.

And again, I don't think they would do it, but they could be real d*cks if they really wanted to be. Half the legal strategy in cases like this are to run the defendant out of legal defense funds.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by Bisonzabi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nintendo is a huge outlier. They're notoriously mean to fan projects such as games and roms in general compared to the likes of Sega or Capcom who really endorse them. I just don't think this new owner will be specifically annoyed over a few emulated servers much like how Daybreak wasn't in the past. Of course I could be dead wrong.

god i got all my DSes banned for playing pokemon before it released

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes it did. Yet it hasn't happened to p99 in a full decade. P99 has been more popular than winter's roar ever was for years now, long before the transition from SOE to daybreak, so why didn't SOE ever do the same thing to p99 that it did to winter's roar? I think it's at least an interesting question, if nothing else. Doesn't that seem strange and inconsistent?

Personally, my guess would be they realized that shutting down fan passion projects like this is incredibly bad PR, and may ultimately be more of a net liability to the company than a gain. I can't think of any other reason. Now that obviously doesn't mean that the new owners think the same way, but it's certainly possible. Even Nintendo got a shitload of backlash for shutting down that fan-made metroid 2 remake (AM2R), and other large companies with an interest in the gaming market might have taken notice of that.

paragraph a.) I never heard of a CnD so i assume it never happened. because...:
b.) yes that's accurate, which is why we are raising this now that it's a new company in charge. it revives the concerns and speculations. Will a new faceless, overleveraged trash company make a new and stupid decision??

Now you are ready to read the thread! Go back to page 1 and catch up with us, My Genius. And don't feel bad, Elf Law is a thousands year old discipline of unfathomable prestige & complexity. Very hard to grasp without a degree from YouTube U.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

paragraph a.) I never heard of a CnD so i assume it never happened. because...:
b.) yes that's accurate, which is why we are raising this now that it's a new company in charge. it revives the concerns and speculations. Will a new faceless, overleveraged trash company make a new and stupid decision??

Now you are ready to read the thread! Go back to page 1 and catch up with us, My Genius.

You would think, that if a CnD had been issued against p99, it would have succeeded. The whole argument here is that rog\bog don't have the resources or means to stand up to gigantic corporate legal pressure. No? Since the server has existed for 11 years now, either such a CnD never occured, or was defeated.

I already said that I don't know whether a new faceless company will act differently, my point was that there is a logical reason to assume they won't (it easily could have happened, and arguably was likely to given the fate of winter's roar, yet didn't), rather than to panic that they will. SoE was as cutthroat as most gigantic self interested megabusinesses. Yet P99 remains.

Can you please at least attempt to respond to me in good faith without some 5th grade insult, btw? When was the last time I called you a name?

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You would think, that if a CnD had been issued against p99, it would have succeeded. The whole argument here is that rog\bog don't have the resources or means to stand up to gigantic corporate legal pressure. No? Since the server has existed for 11 years now, either such a CnD never occured, or was defeated.

I already said that I don't know whether a new faceless company will act differently, my point was that there is a logical reason to assume they won't (it easily could have happened, and arguably was likely to given the fate of winter's roar, yet didn't), rather than to panic that they will. SoE was as cutthroat as most gigantic self interested megabusinesses. Yet P99 remains.

Can you please at least attempt to respond to me in good faith without some 5th grade insult, btw? When was the last time I called you a name?

last time we engaged you brought up "my identity". Anyway your post was like a kid talking to the wall in a group of grownups (or at least low teens) and you've failed to rebut my dunk at all, while fielding 2 useless paragraphs (while suggesting this project may have defeated Sony in court without our hearing about it, lol you are one dizzy manlet), so don't @ me about good faith. My Genius.

Good faith would be you approaching things very gently in light of the knowledge you are very stupid, lack judgment and general competency, and have a tendency to get vicious when challenged.

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

last time we engaged you brought up "my identity". Anyway your post was like a kid talking to the wall in a group of grownups (or at least low teens) and you've failed to rebut my dunk at all, while fielding 2 useless paragraphs, so don't @ me about good faith. My Genius.

What? Talking about a topic you are sensitive to in a way you disapprove of is not tantamount to calling you playground insults. Relax, I'm just trying to communicate clearly on a discussion forum in a thread about discussing a specific issue, which you are not doing.

I didn't say this project defeated sony in court, I'm saying that the fact it is still up and running after 11 years is either evidence that sony never tried to shut them down, or tried and failed. It's purely logical deductive reasoning.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What? Talking about a topic you are sensitive to in a way you disapprove of is not tantamount to calling you playground insults. Relax, I'm just trying to communicate clearly on a discussion forum in a thread about discussing a specific issue, which you are not doing.

"Your a faggit, of course you think that!!!" is literally what you wrote. I am unsurprised your spine is flexible enough to accomodate the pretzel this post puts you in.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't say this project defeated sony in court, I'm saying that the fact it is still up and running after 11 years is either evidence that sony never tried to shut them down, or tried and failed. It's purely logical deductive reasoning.

The way you wrote it indicated you were challenging the notion that p99 had the resources. The part where you put "No?". So if we're trying to be very clear here, let me clearly state that in addition to being a meanspirited 5'6" shit you are also not so good at expressing yourself. The post is written to interrogate the wrong facts, and does not demonstrate a clear line of deductive reasoning at all. I think you really just have stupid ass opinions and a verrrry dizzy worldview and try to deflect and defend by any means necessary, Mr. Goodfaith. In short, you are both dumb and mean, on top of being ugly and submissive.

PS you never acknowledged the thing about the centuries old discipline in the TX thread, where you were proven wrong after calling me a tranny to try and rebut me. How'd it make you feel? I trust you will answer in good faith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[douglas1999]

Originally Posted by imperiouskitten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Your a faggit, of course you think that!!!" is literally what you wrote. I am unsurprised your spine is flexible enough to accomodate the pretzel this post puts you in.

Haha what? No I didn't. I honestly don't know what the hell you are talking about. In fact I said that I don't believe in belittling people for who they are, or bullying people for any reason.

Look I hope we can all agree that p99 is clearly a common part of our lives and that it going away would be really fuckin shitty. I don't want to keep sparring with you kitten, if I did say something which I don't recall that was shitty to you then I definitely apologize, but I don't think I did.

[imperiouskitten]

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haha what? No I didn't. I honestly don't know what the hell you are talking about. In fact I said that I don't believe in belittling people for who they are, or bullying people for any reason.

Originally Posted by douglas1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

bahahah oh dear lord. Evolutionary biology is panned in the "academic community", according to person whose entire identity depends on that being true. Richard dawkins doesn't know jack squat, buddy! He said a thing that offended one of my socio-political sensibilities, so the entire centuries-long field is DEBUNKED

Yeah, cool. Go tell darwin how wrong he is about demisexuality or whatever. My 28 year old gender studies professor told me that darwin is super wrong. Good god we are doomed as a species.

(because you don't know the diff between the theory of evolution and the field "Evolutionary Biology" which largely arose in the 1980s)

Yeah I don't believe in bullying people for who they are either, you unloved little troll. All good faith here, my welfare stamp f@gg0t. Especially when my argument is that you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground. Because you don't.