Wife Duo

[Zipity]

Necro + sham and mage + sham are great

[melandis]

thanks for all the advice folks.

Wife has decided to play an iksar melee class as she likes the look of the race, still gets to hit things and I'll be providing support as a shaman. Not sure which of the three options she will go for but see you soon in kurns.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by melandis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks for all the advice folks.

Wife has decided to play an iksar melee class as she likes the look of the race, still gets to hit things and I'll be providing support as a shaman. Not sure which of the three options she will go for but see you soon in kurns.

persuade her to go monk

she will thank you later

[Master Roshi]

Originally Posted by melandis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thanks for all the advice folks.

Wife has decided to play an iksar melee class as she likes the look of the race, still gets to hit things and I'll be providing support as a shaman. Not sure which of the three options she will go for but see you soon in kurns.

You got yourself a keeper! Wife wanting master race right out the gates!

Monk and Shaman is probably the most overall star duo for ikky, but I think Necro and Monk can go a long way too, plus you both get FD for some really fun dungeon crawling adventures.

[Issar]

Originally Posted by Master Roshi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You got yourself a keeper! Wife wanting master race right out the gates!

Monk and Shaman is probably the most overall star duo for ikky, but I think Necro and Monk can go a long way too, plus you both get FD for some really fun dungeon crawling adventures.

Totally agree, is a solid setup too. I think Shaman/SK is a duo gets overlooked a lot itself. There is a lot of utility to synergy between the classes, and adding snares and fears to a shaman toolkit, you can get a lot done.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by Issar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Totally agree, is a solid setup too. I think Shaman/SK is a duo gets overlooked a lot itself. There is a lot of utility to synergy between the classes, and adding snares and fears to a shaman toolkit, you can get a lot done.

except for the whole low dps thing

monk is the best possible pair with a shaman and it really isnt close unless you're talking mega-twinked warrior on blue

[XeroKill]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

except for the whole low dps thing

monk is the best possible pair with a shaman and it really isnt close unless you're talking mega-twinked warrior on blue

The low DPS is not that big of a deal and doesn't become very evident until after level 20. Prior to level 20 just equip a 2-hander that hits for DMG cap and yer all set. I would agree that for the sub 50 game the MNK wins pretty handily, but later on in the game having a proper tank/slow combo will become invaluable. Not to mention you are 2/3 of a perfect group already in the making. If you are a SHD/SHM duo, you just shout that you are looking for more... any will do, really. If you are a MNK/SHM duo, you still NEED a tank to get a proper group going and the tank is usually the hardest part to fill, and usually the one that breaks the group when they leave.

I duo'd Iksar MNK/SHM with a friend of mine, and by the time we hit 57 I thoroughly regretted my decision and wished I had gone SHD instead of MNK. We were trying to do dungeon crawls and my ability to tank became too much of an issue. Threat was difficult between slows, dots and heals, and even with a Fungi and decent twinkage, the MNK just needed too many heals. God forbid we got into any trouble because the MNK has practically zero ability to contribute anything beyond MOAR PUNCH!

A torpor SHM with a well geared SHD can duo practically anything. Yes a MNK would do well, but for what a SHM needs/wants to succeed the most, being able to hold agro and take the hits is FAR more useful than a slightly faster time-to-kill.

I think the best argument here is that there are no things a MNK can do that a SHD cannot, even if the kill takes longer. However, there ARE targets that a MNK could not tank for the SHM but a SHD could handle easily. Their DPS doesn't add up to enough of a difference to overcome their lack of agro, utility and damage mitigation.

[Toxigen]

Originally Posted by XeroKill [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The low DPS is not that big of a deal and doesn't become very evident until after level 20. Prior to level 20 just equip a 2-hander that hits for DMG cap and yer all set. I would agree that for the sub 50 game the MNK wins pretty handily, but later on in the game having a proper tank/slow combo will become invaluable. Not to mention you are 2/3 of a perfect group already in the making. If you are a SHD/SHM duo, you just shout that you are looking for more... any will do, really. If you are a MNK/SHM duo, you still NEED a tank to get a proper group going and the tank is usually the hardest part to fill, and usually the one that breaks the group when they leave.

I duo'd Iksar MNK/SHM with a friend of mine, and by the time we hit 57 I thoroughly regretted my decision and wished I had gone SHD instead of MNK. We were trying to do dungeon crawls and my ability to tank became too much of an issue. Threat was difficult between slows, dots and heals, and even with a Fungi and decent twinkage, the MNK just needed too many heals. God forbid we got into any trouble because the MNK has practically zero ability to contribute anything beyond MOAR PUNCH!

A torpor SHM with a well geared SHD can duo practically anything. Yes a MNK would do well, but for what a SHM needs/wants to succeed the most, being able to hold agro and take the hits is FAR more useful than a slightly faster time-to-kill.

I think the best argument here is that there are no things a MNK can do that a SHD cannot, even if the kill takes longer. However, there ARE targets that a MNK could not tank for the SHM but a SHD could handle easily. Their DPS doesn't add up to enough of a difference to overcome their lack of agro, utility and damage mitigation.

So your shaman didn't like to root mobs, got it. You had a crappy duo partner which made it feel like a slog.

You are quite possibly the only person on P99 that would even try to argue SK > Monk for duo w/ a shaman.

[Issar]

Originally Posted by Toxigen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

except for the whole low dps thing

monk is the best possible pair with a shaman and it really isnt close unless you're talking mega-twinked warrior on blue

You missed the whole point there, Toxic Gen...