A day that will live in infamy

[Tankwipe]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You all keep repeating this lie, but in my experience almost all of the RL racism came from people who can't distinguish fantasy from reality.

DMO was made up of Erudites. Not Humans of African Descent. That distinction was paramount and I impressed it greatly into every single brother I brought into the order.

It was the great unwashed casuals that kept calling us racist, digital blackface, etc.

The game's creators couldn't do the amazing technicolor humans that every game in the future was able to do due to technical, storage, and bandwidth limitations, so they made one race have dark skin. They also gave them the highest intelligence in the game.

We were a roleplay guild. The fact that we roleplayed as being of superior intellect...well it brought out the worst in a lot of people.

EQ has a lot of "fantasy racism" in it. Elves hate orcs; dwarves hate ogres; barbarians and erudites tolerate each other but value different things (strength & stamina vs intellect) and aren't the best of friends.

The problem is the sheer number of people who can't distinguish "fantasy" racism from RL racism; who think that the reason you're overcharging them is that you the player want an excuse to do so instead of playing a character.

And Ramal you need to shut up, but you never will.

lmao the game was made by humans with access to the historical context of blackness, and so do its players. Explicitly playing only males of a black race and pretending that it exists only in the context of a game world is intellectually dishonest at best and ignorant at worst.

plus they are categorically dumb assholes

[Benanov]

Originally Posted by Tankwipe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Explicitly playing only males of a black race and pretending that it exists only in the context of a game world is intellectually dishonest at best and ignorant at worst.

Exhibit A for a person who can't distinguish fantasy from reality.

Originally Posted by plzrelax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why not ban all related forum accounts too?

By your lack of logic combined, we should just ban anyone who creates an Erudite. It's digital blackface after all.

[Emberthorn]

Originally Posted by Benanov [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exhibit A for a person who can't distinguish fantasy from reality.



By your lack of logic combined, we should just ban anyone who creates an Erudite. It's digital blackface after all.

Please, they've been blackfacing and racist longer than you've been in their guild.

https://imgur.com/a/VRkTORw

I won't even post the shit Ramal said about Muslims.

Couple that with names like "Snewp" and names that are clearly inspired from real life black names, this is black face.

Let's hope Seal Team no longer takes this non-sense with them. So much baggage for the only guild that matters.

[Benanov]

Originally Posted by Emberthorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please, they've been blackfacing and racist longer than you've been in their guild.

That's absolutely impressive. I joined day 1.

Ramal apologized for that incident, which was one of the few times that someone actually apologized in the Green UN.

Did he *learn* from it? No.



As for naming policy - I will tell you what I told everyone else who came to me with a name report:

If it bothers you enough to talk to me about it, /petition it. I can't change the name, and I can't make someone reroll. (I petitioned a few names myself.)

The GMs will decide if that name is acceptable on the server - and (speculation) that will probably lead to someone updating the name filter so that name is not allowed in the future.

Sure I can detag the character, but that doesn't get rid of the name. The character would still exist.

If you want to complain about something, ask the people that CAN do something about it. Don't complain to me and blame me for when I can't do anything about the problem. That's just stupid.

[Isomorphic]

Originally Posted by Emberthorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Please, they've been blackfacing and racist longer than you've been in their guild.

https://imgur.com/a/VRkTORw

I won't even post the shit Ramal said about Muslims.

Couple that with names like "Snewp" and names that are clearly inspired from real life black names, this is black face.

Let's hope Seal Team no longer takes this non-sense with them. So much baggage for the only guild that matters.

To add some context that screenshot was directed at a Japanese guild in the old UN discord server. He feigned ignorance about how offensive it was.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Isomorphic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To add some context that screenshot was directed at a Japanese guild in the old UN discord server. He feigned ignorance about how offensive it was.

That guy joined our guild and agreed how out of control you guys are, and that kingdom are backstabbers.


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You must feel pretty silly right now