Cancel culture.

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't give it to your kids.

Your kids can pull the others up who had parents that didn't think as clearly as you. Sorry that may be their role as leaders of the next generation.

We can collectively agree that social media is poison (which it is) and we can dismantle it and continue to demand that policies be made to change it.

But regardless of your stance on policies on this or other topics, love your neighbor. There will be no utopia because you're still going to be dealing with people full of problems. But we can make it better.

Look at the way you just described some fellow human beings in your last paragraph. Think about what that means. Think about what that looks like when someone else is saying the same thing about you. It gets us no where. They may be lacking empathy and so many other things, but what are we going to do about it. Every shit life is worth fighting for, or none are. Every person hunching over a shopping cart sunburnt looking like they are 80 years old (at age 35) from sun exposure going to die of kidney failure some cold night next to a convenience store, every single one of these adults was born as some mother or some fathers precious perfect baby, or might have been. Or they could have been the precious perfect baby of some adopted family. Or they could have been killed before they were born.

We need to give up on "give them what they deserve" this is all culture poison that we got from the "war on drugs" when the for profit prison industry like 1500X'ed in size in our country and crime did not decrease and safety and quality of life did not increase. We literally send people in to places we know they are raped and guaranteed to never recover or be rehabilitated at all. It would be more humane to have firing squads but for some reason we've been convinced that prisons are just a thing we all have to deal with.

So lets choose to care about each other. Lets choose to care about children even the children of known scum whatever that means. People don't choose to be homeless and they don't choose to be addicted to drugs and they don't choose to be poor. They get there somehow. They don't want to be there but their brain is trashed and they can no longer make good decisions.

Personal responsibility is real, and compassion is also real. I am personally responsible to make use of the gifts that I have. What am I supposed to do with the non drug addicted brain stuck in my skull? Use it to pile up wealth for myself so that when I die my (neglected because of my focus on wealth collection) kids can squander it or remain wealthy while being complete slimeballs? What is the point. "From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more." This is the classic reminder you can give to your Christian neighbors as they scowl at the human filth polluting their streets wondering why they don't just chose to be smart and successful like they are.

Think about what everyone produces in their life, and what they get for it. My most wealthy friends and acquaintances work just as hard and are as just as miserable as the middle class guys that I know. It takes a lot of time and effort to manage significant wealth and the stakes are higher. Everyone ends up with their face on the grindstone feeling miserable and heaven forbid we have time to care about anyone around us. We all produce a lot of shit for no reason and then die and take none of it anywhere. I'm not going to try to tell you what the point is. Our culture makes it seem great to wear the best clothes and go to costly restaurants but the level of joy is no greater than the level of joy a walmart greeter has on BBQ sunday with his walmart greeter neighbor.

Way off topic but since its basically a RnF thread I'm just going to let it go.

P.S. the social media thing is just another example of being sold down the river. The folks in charge can't be relied on to care about well being. They are collecting paychecks with their face to the millstone like the rest of us, making side deals as is required of their station and trying not to lose their job.

Again, I agree. I don't want to get into disagreement because I agree with the notion.

But I also think there is a side that wants this narrative, wants to say their way of living is the healthy only way, they find it easy to facebook and be what they are on there, grand standing in a way, or faking that their life is like that, influencing children like crazy. My children won't be on there but that isn't necessarily a common opinion today, it needs to be expressed more. Yes I agree with what you are saying sure but we have a problem, one that has no solution yet in facebook etc.. the bubble needs to pop and aggressive action will need to be taken and the left needs to work with the right on that.

This is like a bezos and musk needing to work together situation.. Instead of musk acting like a pompus dick head and bezos acting like a safe space whiny little baby, it just needs to happen, I am expressing things "of thy neighbor" in a way to exaggerate the issue, sure but only to bring attention to it, i suppose.

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Shawk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

aggressive action will need to be taken and the left needs to work with the right on that.

Republicans will almost certainly block all the legislation Schumer brings to a vote in order to deny the Democrats any possible victories and avoid incurring Trump's fury (and ending up like Liz Cheney).

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Republicans will almost certainly block all the legislation Schumer brings to a vote in order to deny the Democrats any possible victories and avoid incurring Trump's fury (and ending up like Liz Cheney).

Ya one of the easiest things we can change is the rules in congress. Its relatively recent that all bills are allowed to be Yes / No with no possibility for ammendments. What this means is that the minority party is no longer participating in the lawmaking process at all so each side tries to make a bill just disgusting enough that the other party can't bring themself to sign it, and then point to the postive aspects of the bill and say "OH REALLY, your guy didn't want to fund CARE FOR THE NEEDY?! what a surprise!" but in reality it was a whole package bill of heinous shit plus care for the needy (which is what all bills are today).

There are some pretty simple legislation rule fixes that can help a lot with actually getting things done but it would take the prevailing party to have the guts to actually weaken their position somewhat (by allowing the other party a say) in order to better everyone.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya one of the easiest things we can change is the rules in congress. Its relatively recent that all bills are allowed to be Yes / No with no possibility for ammendments. What this means is that the minority party is no longer participating in the lawmaking process at all so each side tries to make a bill just disgusting enough that the other party can't bring themself to sign it, and then point to the postive aspects of the bill and say "OH REALLY, your guy didn't want to fund CARE FOR THE NEEDY?! what a surprise!" but in reality it was a whole package bill of heinous shit plus care for the needy (which is what all bills are today).

There are some pretty simple legislation rule fixes that can help a lot with actually getting things done but it would take the prevailing party to have the guts to actually weaken their position somewhat (by allowing the other party a say) in order to better everyone.

they have or are trying to bring back earmarks for this reason

[Shawk]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Republicans will almost certainly block all the legislation Schumer brings to a vote in order to deny the Democrats any possible victories and avoid incurring Trump's fury (and ending up like Liz Cheney).

yes as much as i say "left work with right" its hard when the right doesn't work with the left.. left bites the right randomly for no good reason, vice versa.. is what it is i guess.. they are just doing their jobs really i guess but ya the liz thing is awkward af

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Shawk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yes as much as i say "left work with right" its hard when the right doesn't work with the left.. left bites the right randomly for no good reason, vice versa.. is what it is i guess.

Why do we have to do the same thing? We can work together by doing different things in different states and learning from each other, e.g. California can have masks, vaccines, and socialism while Texas does something different, and people who want X and not Y can move to a different state if they feel particularly strongly about it. That was the whole idea of the United States.

Originally Posted by Byue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did you care much for unity and including the other side when 45 was in power or was it more of a we won shut the fuck up dems haha?

This kind of simplistic identity politics is precisely the problem. Everyone voted for slightly different reasons. In any case, why don't you go worry about Trudeau or something? American politics barely affect you.

[Byue]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This kind of simplistic identity politics is precisely the problem. Everyone voted for slightly different reasons. In any case, why don't you go worry about Trudeau or something? American politics barely affect you.

What identity politics?
You think what fits one neighbourhood fits all neighbourhood?


Also, can you American stop thinking the rest of the world does not care about your politics? We know for a fact the NSA is spying on virtually everyone on earth, you got the machines of death pew pew to kill most of the world six times over and you are the leading economy, what are we supposed to do, root for China?

We, the rest of the fucking world, bare our teeth when you have wannabe fascist in government because our own government watches.

You think it is a fucking coincidence Myanmarr had a coup d'etat about voter fraud weeks after 45th's big lie?

When your politicians show you do not have to follow reality to be elected because you can gerrymander your way into your voter base, ours watch and learn.


Your politics is of fucking national interest of every god damn fucking country on earth and it requires very little knowledge about how the world work to ask foreigners to not care.
We cannot vote, but we can give our opinion.
Welcome to democracy, I can see you are not a fan.

It's funny because the analogy is a Roman citizen telling a Gaul citizen not to worry about Roman politics since it doesn't affect him, he is not Roman.

Fun fact, Ceasar was in fact, in Gaul, later during his years as consul.
So it did affect the Gaulic citizen, in the end.

And the analogy is good because we care about our future but if you want to crush it, you can.
So it is of vital imprtance we care about it even more.