Arizona election audit finds massive fraud and irregularities

[Botten]

I really don't get it.

MAGA supporters (many conservatives) repeat the narrative over and over again that the elections are rigged.

When this was said over and over again less MAGA supporters showed up to vote for the senate elections in Georgia. Resulting in two democrat senators.

There was two bipartisan audits before the partisan cyber ninja 3rd audit in Arizona.

The two bipartisan audits found no fraud but the partisan cyber ninja 3rd audit found massive fraud.

Isn't this just pushing the same narrative to conservative voters to not even bother voting?

It just seems like conservatives are shooting yourselves in the foot.

Thou no fraud was found by the DoJ and there wasn't a single case that found fraud out of the 50 something lawsuits.

Now many Red states are pushing voting restrictions that may not even help their initiative if more and more crazy narratives that your vote doesn't count "don't bother voting" keeps being echoed by MAGA supporters.

[Thorgrimm]

Originally Posted by Botten [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now many Red states are pushing voting restrictions that may not even help their initiative if more and more crazy narratives that your vote doesn't count "don't bother voting" keeps being echoed by MAGA supporters.

How is requiring ID to vote and proving citizenship a restriction

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Thorgrimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is requiring ID to vote and proving citizenship a restriction

EBT and welfare requires ID.

So clearly you can see the correlation.

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

EBT and welfare requires ID.

So clearly you can see the correlation.

I have 365 days to get welfare or EBT. There is only 1 day to vote.

ID presents lots of non-intuitive problems with voting

Wallet stolen before the big day? No vote for you.

Maybe your license just expired and you are waiting for it to come in the mail? You don't get to vote.

Maybe it leads to something more sinister, like someone with a certain prejudice refusing to accept the ID's of someone because they don't 'look' American.

It's not like any student of history couldn't look back and see where any requirement other than your physical presence at a ballot box could be manipulated for some nefarious reason.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is only 1 day to vote.

Sonderbeast No Disrespect,

That's false.

[Sonderbeast]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sonderbeast No Disrespect,

That's false.

And I said it in such a way to illustrate my point. Early voting was put in place to avoid these issues. Although there is still one 'voting day' expanding the ability to to vote by early voting and vote by mail makes such a process more fair to everyone. My point was there was a limited time to vote, and after the counting day you're SOL.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And I said it in such a way to illustrate my point. Early voting was put in place to avoid these issues. Although there is still one 'voting day' expanding the ability to to vote by early voting and vote by mail makes such a process more fair to everyone. My point was there was a limited time to vote, and after the counting day you're SOL.

So what is stopping these lazy people from getting out to Vote with the multiple days they're able to do so?

What is stopping these lazy people from going out the other 300+ days a year and getting an ID

ID is required for many things in like, such as buying alcohol.. You must have a VALID photo ID to buy alcohol. They will not accept out of date IDs to buy alcohol.

[Pulgasari]

Originally Posted by Thorgrimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How is requiring ID to vote and proving citizenship a restriction

Can't do that federally. Wouldn't be prudent.