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Old 08-03-2021, 07:51 PM
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Vanilla is best.

Kunark and Velious are pretty great.

Monks only being able to be humans was the best. Worst race, good style. It was great.

Iksar regen monks are like a hack.

Iksar regen necro is cool but not game changing. Something about physical enhancement like regen on a purely physical class like monk just feels bummer.

But the ogre already existed and for SK, warrior, shaman they are hands down better than others.

Thats just how this game is, and I like it.

Warrior - Ogre
SK - Ogre
Shaman - Ogre
Rogue - Barb
Monk - Iksar
Necro - Iksar

out of 14 classes, 6 of them have 1 race that is definitely superior.

You could argue for halfling for druids, and high elf for clerics and enchanter, but the differences for those races are super minor, where the 6 above are meaningful advantages.

But thats how the game is whether iksars are here or not, we would still have 4 superior race choice classes.

But do you want to be an OGRE? Do you want to be KOS everywhere in old world? Do you want to be a barbarian rogue?

Only matters in PVP where only barb rogues get throwing boulders. Plunk!
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Old 08-04-2021, 05:11 AM
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You could argue for halfling for druids, and high elf for clerics and enchanter, but the differences for those races are super minor, where the 6 above are meaningful advantages.
That's partly why I mained a wizard for a while, and am maining a druid now. I feel like I can actually pick the race I want to be with those classes since there isn't much of an advantage even with the "BiS" one.

Incidently my druid is a halfling but not for any of those reasons. I genuinely like them. I identify far more with a jolly chubby little man over some skinny snobbish elf. xD

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But do you want to be an OGRE? Do you want to be KOS everywhere in old world?
Do you also want to look like a walking talking sack of mashed potatoes?
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Old 08-04-2021, 06:07 AM
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Do you also want to look like a walking talking sack of mashed potatoes?

You're saying it like mashed potatoes isn't beautiful.
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Old 08-04-2021, 07:32 PM
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You're saying it like mashed potatoes isn't beautiful.
Oh they are. Bit of butter, some salt and pepper, maybe some bacon and green onions...mmm!

Just pointing out it's something an ogre player would have to deal with. xD

That and needing a source of shrink. And also being KoS in parts of Neriak for some weird reason. Seen plenty of ogre corpses littering the city before, which shouldn't be.
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Old 08-04-2021, 08:43 AM
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Iksar regen necro is cool but not game changing. Something about physical enhancement like regen on a purely physical class like monk just feels bummer.
Have you played a non-iksar necro at 55+? Its awful compared to the lizard variety unless you have full gear like zheart and VP staff.

I'd also argue that anything other than ogre shaman is entirely overrated (especially warrior). Being big sucks balls, stats are easily capped in velious, and FSI isn't a big deal for tanks. I wish my warrior was gnome or halfling so bad.

That being said... if the purpose / goal for your shaman is to solo big end game targets...then ogre truly is the only choice. That is not debatable.

Ultimately, fashionquest rises above everything else. Play what is aesthetically pleasing to you otherwise you're just setting yourself up for shelving the character for something else.
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Old 08-04-2021, 12:53 PM
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Have you played a non-iksar necro at 55+? Its awful compared to the lizard variety unless you have full gear like zheart and VP staff.
If you sit around and compare your health recovery speed and efficiency to another necro that is an iksar you will be able to measure the amount of time you waste being a non iksar.

The thing is, the necro is already a very efficient class and the extra iksar efficiency isn't such a big deal (to me)

As a monk you have less tools on your belt and extra innate regen feels like such a huge deal.

So yeah, the min/max vs personal min/max is what makes EQ great. Some races are "better" but may not be your top pick.
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